Galactus vs. Juggernaut

Originally posted by BUSTER1
My point was -in reply to your pointing out that people including Namor have broken free of Cyttorak's bands -is that just because 1 of Cytorraks enchantments can be overcome by non magical means, not all of them can. Thats why I pointed out that Savage Hulk has broken the Bands of Cyttorak before, but his most powerful incarnation, WWH, wasn't able to beat Juggrnaut, whose power comes fron another Cyttorak enchantment

There is no difference between classic and current Juggernaut

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
There is no difference between classic and current Juggernaut

What are you talking about? I never said there was. 😕

Originally posted by BUSTER1
What are you talking about? I never said there was. 😕

Thought you were implying that he has a different power up.

There is no evidence to suggest, or any proof that Galactus is more powerful than Cyttorak, firstly they have never battled therefore anything besides an I don't know is heresay and speculation.

Juggernaut will not beat Galactus, but it still remains a mystery as to whether or not Galactus could hurt him with a blast, BFR until otherwise proven is the only viable win that Galactus gets here.

Am I saying Cain is more pwerful than Galactus? No.

How about this people? Both sides post scans and proof as to why they believe the other to be stronger.

wHAT DOES BFR MEAN

Battle Field Removal

Originally posted by Stoic
There is no evidence to suggest, or any proof that Galactus is more powerful than Cyttorak, firstly they have never battled therefore anything besides an I don't know is heresay and speculation.

Juggernaut will not beat Galactus, but it still remains a mystery as to whether or not Galactus could hurt him with a blast, BFR until otherwise proven is the only viable win that Galactus gets here.

Am I saying Cain is more pwerful than Galactus? No.

There is plenty of evidence to suggest that galactus is above cyttorak. He has the feats while unfortunately cyttorak doesnt. There is no speculation as to whether galactus can hurt juggernaut with a blast. For galactus to be unable to hurt juggernaut cyttorak would have to be far above galactus. We would have to assume that Galactus cannot even come close to hurting cyttorak and then assume that he is so much lower than cyttorak that he would not even be able to hurt a being empowered with only a little of cyttoraks power.

That is just ridiculous on so many levels. Galactus has been able to vaporize a watcher and they are above skyfather level and have been able to survive the destruction of galaxies and even universes. Juggernaut certainly doesnt have the feats to prove he can take that kind of power and frankly neither does Cytorrak.

All the burden of proof rests on those who believe that juggernaut cant be hurt by galactus.

Originally posted by Stoic
There is no evidence to suggest, or any proof that Galactus is more powerful than Cyttorak, firstly they have never battled therefore anything besides an I don't know is heresay and speculation.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
How about this people? Both sides post scans and proof as to why they believe the other to be stronger.

Im ready to provide scans of galactus power but i already no that no one will be able to proof of anything on cyttoraks side.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Im ready to provide scans of galactus power but i already no that no one will be able to proof of anything on cyttoraks side.

Which is my point. The only time I've ever seen him in action was when that gay aspect humanoid version of him got beat by Juggernaut himself which I still say is stupid. I love Juggernaut/Cyttorak and almost everything about Cain but he is outclassed here. True I believe that he can take a bunch of Galactus's "Away from me you petty nuisance" blast but once he does the whole "Your petty existance ends here" blast then obliteration is the only thing that I can think of.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
They haven't battled but Galactus did travel through Cyttorak's realm unhindered in spite of Cyttorak trying to stop him. I'd take it as some kind of placement of power when your opponent's space ship rolls over your immobility spell.

Really when did that happen? Are you sure your talking about Cyttorak, I'm not calling you a liar, I've just never heard of this.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
They haven't battled but Galactus did travel through Cyttorak's realm unhindered in spite of Cyttorak trying to stop him. I'd take it as some kind of placement of power when your opponent's space ship rolls over your immobility spell.

Never heard of this either but I wouldn't put it past G doing so on two occassions. 1. G has the power to do so and the CC doesn't exactly hurt people by just being in there. 2. The CC isn't really his home as much as it is his prison. He was banished there. IIRC being in the CC doesn't actually make Cain or Cyttorak more powerful. I may be wrong. I'm not as knowledgable on Cyttorak and the CC as much as I am on Cain.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Never heard of this either but I wouldn't put it past G doing so on two occassions. 1. G has the power to do so and the CC doesn't exactly hurt people by just being in there. 2. The CC isn't really his home as much as it is his prison. He was banished there. IIRC being in the CC doesn't actually make Cain or Cyttorak more powerful. I may be wrong. I'm not as knowledgable on Cyttorak and the CC as much as I am on Cain.

It happened in Dr strange sorcerer supreme but i cant remeber the details. Ill just do a quick croll thru of the comic.

Ok it was right after galactus left agamottos realm. The thing is that Galactus and cyttorak never came face to face. Juggernaut on the other hand did make an appearance and he actually succeeded in knocking cyttorak out for some time. 😱

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Ok it was right after galactus left agamottos realm. The thing is that Galactus and cyttorak never came face to face. Juggernaut on the other hand did make an appearance and he actually succeeded in knocking cyttorak out for some time. 😱

Yeah that was the gay human looking one right? How in the hell do you beat your benefactor?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Yeah that was the gay human looking one right? How in the hell do you beat your benefactor?

Yeah. It was the human form of cyttorak that has the gem in his head. Cyttorak even admitted that Juggs "briefly defeated him". 🙁 I personally woudnt use that feat to judge him in general cuz thats just ridiculous.

I don't reference that for anything except for stupidity.

I always preferred that showing over his Juggernaut-like appearance later. It's not really telling of anything except that you can effectively steal the hat of someone stronger than you if you surprise them, which was the theme of my sig pictures for a while.

In case no one has mentioned, and not that this is comic canon at all, but according to the Classic Marvel RPG, Juggernauts force field grants him Class 1000 protection (about the same as Pure Adamantium), Galactus can wield the Power Cosmic at Class 3000 level. So yeah, Im in the camp that Galactus can take Cain down pretty handily.