Silver Surfer's H2H Gauntlet

Started by ultimatethor8 pages
ultimatethor Senior Member

Surfer is still too durable for most of these guys and he can amp it even more

darthgoober Senior Member
Originally posted by rotiart
Surfer has never displayed combat speed

Yes he has...

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7940/story2page01combatwa4.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1935/silversurfer199003316ik9.jpg

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/SilverSurfer_Rune-14.jpg

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Originally posted by rotiart
He hasn't self healed... Healed others sure...

Yes he has...

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2418/silversurfer198903221ng5.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1821/silversurfer198903222aa7.jpg

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Originally posted by rotiart
Heck I'd say without his powerset he doesn't get past 1

Seriously?

Originally posted by rotiart
Surfer has no hand to hand skills. He was a pacifist from a planet of pacifist
Every time he ends up in a brawl with someone in his weight class he tends to to down

Are you kidding...

[img=http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3406/silversurfer1219no5.th.jpg]
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Originally posted by rotiart
If someone like hulk or Thor can hurt thanos a
Master fighter surfer loses
Early

What?

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Starscream M
4 or 5 would be my guess

Any particular reason why?

Originally posted by Starscream M
darthgoober, is Surfer bloodlusted or is he fighting in character?

Both. Assume he's fighting with his current attitude(like he was against Nova). He's not looking to kill, but if that's what it takes...

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Red Hulk
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MCP174-05.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MCP174-06.jpg

And don't forget about Surfer sending him flying through a couple of miles of forest with a casual backhand...

kgkg Vigilante

Originally posted by rotiart
Surfer has no hand to hand skills. He was a pacifist from a planet of pacifist
Every time he ends up in a brawl with someone in his weight class he tends to to down

If someone like hulk or Thor can hurt thanos a
Master fighter surfer loses
Early

😐 🤨

Starscream M Senior Member

Originally posted by darthgoober
Any particular reason why?

I think he'll take out grey hulk without too much trouble. then he takes out abom but this time he'll take a beating himself. With 5 seconds in between matches, I don't see him healing himself. IM is versatile enough to abuse Surfer's lack of flight...so I'm not quite sure how Surfer wins this. And if he gets past IM, he'll be weakened enough that either Donna Troy or Power Girl will finish him off.

Red Hulk Dead

Originally posted by darthgoober
And don't forget about Surfer sending him flying through a couple of miles of forest with a casual backhand...

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MCP173-05.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MCP173-07.jpg

Does better without board...
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MCP175p12.jpg

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Starscream M
I think he'll take out grey hulk without too much trouble.

Cool...

Originally posted by Starscream M
then he takes out abom but this time he'll take a beating himself.

What makes you think he'll take a beating...
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2418/silversurfer198903221ng5.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1821/silversurfer198903222aa7.jpg

Originally posted by Starscream M
With 5 seconds in between matches, I don't see him healing himself.

Why? I'm not saying that he'd necessarily restore himself after each match(though I really don't see why he wouldn't) but Surfer's healing is pretty quick...

Originally posted by Starscream M
IM is versatile enough to abuse Surfer's lack of flight...so I'm not quite sure how Surfer wins this.

No one's really versatile in this match. Iron Man's limited to the same rules as everyone else with the exception that he's allowed his gear. That doesn't mean that he can fly around blasting.

Originally posted by Starscream M
And if he gets past IM, he'll be weakened enough that either Donna Troy or Power Girl will finish him off.

How weakened do you think he's going to be? And what makes you think Babs or Donna have what it takes to put Surfer down?

Starscream M Senior Member

oh I didn't realize everyone was handicapped by the same rules

My opinion was based on the belief that only Surfer was handicapped

I'll have to reformulate

rotiart Stan Lee Stole my name

wow. Okay man are those secret defender issues.

Okay well I concede self healing and fighting ability but I don't concede combat speed

Those scans show flight speed more so than co
Bat
Except for the possibility of the hull scan... But cap has dodged hulk too... So I don't see that as a
Million flying costs combat speed feat like flash or superman

In any case very nicely done

StiltmanFTW CBvF

"Wow" from me, too. Surfer has so much potential...

kgkg Vigilante

Originally posted by rotiart
So I don't see that as a
Million flying costs combat speed feat like flash or superman
So what is combat speed for a guy who does not punch?(which are primary attacks for Flash and Superman btw)

ultimatethor Senior Member

Id think he has alot more than just potential. I mean he is probably the premier high top tier in comics.

ultimatethor Senior Member
Originally posted by kgkg
So what is combat speed for a guys who does not punch?(which are primary attacks for Flash and Superman btw)

QFT. There is a big difference between combat speed and hand to hand speed.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by rotiart
wow. Okay man are those secret defender issues.

Nah, they're from the Silver Surfer Annual #5 if you're talking about the scans that also feature Hulk, Namor, and Dr. Strange.

Originally posted by rotiart
Okay well I concede self healing and fighting ability but I don't concede combat speed

Well let's talk about it...

Originally posted by rotiart
Those scans show flight speed more so than coBat
Except for the possibility of the hull scan... But cap has dodged hulk too... So I don't see that as a
Million flying costs combat speed feat like flash or superman

I disagree.

In the scan with the ships, he uses multiple energy blasts against multiple targets while dodging multiple incoming blasts and moving in a non strait line manner in a single panel. That's a blitz in pretty much every respect. It's an unquantified blitz sure, but a blitz nonetheless.

In the scan against Deathurge, he dodged an attack and then circled his opponent at high speeds just as guys like Quicksilver and Flash are prone to do.

In the scan with Nova, he grabs him by the throat and throws him with such speed/force that Nova was questioning whether or not he got tagged by an energy blast. While the "grab and throw" isn't an extended attack combination, being able to do it that effectively on someone with Nova's level of Super Speed/Reflexes shows that your "hand speed" is far above the norm.

Originally posted by rotiart
In any case very nicely done

Thanks. Change your opinion any?

rotiart Stan Lee Stole my name

Gets to 7 and stops

The Great Galen Restricted

Goober:Those are not direct H2H confrontations nor a indication of h2h speed, with that said he is stopped by Diana.

Stoic Avenger

Stops at 9, and although he would be able to see what see was doing she outclasses him with her superior H2H skills.

The Great Galen Restricted

She outlasses him in h2h speed,MA talent...he woudln't land a single hit.

rotiart Stan Lee Stole my name

every time Galen posts I see his sig and stop speechless.

That said I think Connor superbou especially since he was essentially superman prior to his death... Would get to surfer