Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
1. Superman is more durable, maybe even to the point where Goku can't even hurt him.2. Superman is able to hit The Flash and WW who are both incredibly fast, he will have no problem hitting Goku, unless you think Goku is faster than Flash.
3. Superman can hear exactly where he is going. Movie Goku hasn't even showed that he can teleport.
He probably is faster than the flash but that's another topic all together, and goku as a whole not just the movie. Someone else had said that gokus punches wouldn't even hurt superman, this is just an assumption, where as i think if doomsdays punches can make superman puke blood , then goku wouldn't have a problem hurting super. I will go back to what i said earlier and believe that once goku is ssj4 gogeta that he can destroy the sun, leaving superman without power. It doesn't matter if is from gt, it is still goku.
Originally posted by worjack
He probably is faster than the flash but that's another topic all together, and goku as a whole not just the movie. Someone else had said that gokus punches wouldn't even hurt superman, this is just an assumption, where as i think if doomsdays punches can make superman puke blood , then goku wouldn't have a problem hurting super. I will go back to what i said earlier and believe that once goku is ssj4 gogeta that he can destroy the sun, leaving superman without power. It doesn't matter if is from gt, it is still goku.
First of all this is Goku vs Superman not Goku and Vegeta vs Superman. Gogeta does not exist in this fight. Second of all SSJ4 Gogeta is not canon so he still couldn't enter this fight. Third of all Gogeta wouldn't doom the world just so he could beat Superman. Everyone dies if he could destroy the sun.
Originally posted by jaden101
I'm sure, one of these days, people will actually grasp the fact of what a MOVIE versus forum is for.Just not today.
Agreed, I think the OP just used this as a medium to debate Goku and Superman, which is funny because in the end Movie Superman stomps Movie Goku and Comic Superman stomps Manga Goku and PC Superman stomps SSJ4 Gogeta.
Originally posted by Kirikaze FuumaThe irony in this is that us "Superman fanboys" make legitimate points and back them up, while you just ignored all the legitimate points and are just insulting your opponents, probably because you have no real argument for why Goku would beat Superman. Because he can't.
and I love to destroy Superman fanboys with their stupid assumption about Goku and even downplayed Goku.P.S : I'm not a fanboy
Originally posted by worjackFaster than Flash? You can't prove he is faster than Wonder Woman, let alone Flash.
He probably is faster than the flash but that's another topic all together, and goku as a whole not just the movie. Someone else had said that gokus punches wouldn't even hurt superman, this is just an assumption, where as i think if doomsdays punches can make superman puke blood , then goku wouldn't have a problem hurting super. I will go back to what i said earlier and believe that once goku is ssj4 gogeta that he can destroy the sun, leaving superman without power. It doesn't matter if is from gt, it is still goku.
Goku's punches=Doomsday now? Lul wut? Doomsday is physically stronger than Superman, and has beaten friggin Darkseid to submission.
Hell, I can prove that Goku needs to be SSJ just to lift a measly 40 tons.
Can you prove Gogeta SSJ4 can destroy the sun, or is this more bullshit? And SSJ4 Gogeta is still much slower, weaker, and much more frail. Not to mention it is noncanon.
You wanna go to GT, SSJ4 Goku can barely lift a city block lol. AQUAMAN can lift a city block.
And being outside the presence of a yellow sun does not instantly drain him anyway. He just can't get stronger.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
The irony in this is that us "Superman fanboys" make legitimate points and back them up, while you just ignored all the legitimate points and are just insulting your opponents, probably because you have no real argument for why Goku would beat Superman. Because he can't.
while I already prove it to you that Goku will win, you guys just shows denials like "slow ass kamehameha can't touch goku" or "his punch won't hurt supes. which is downplaying Goku. and since when I insult the superman fans in this debate?
I agree with one thing Bardock, Goku is a bit cooler.
Fuuma, Goku is not strong enough to take out Superman with a punch. Why?
Because he has not proven to be strong enough. Superman has taken punches from powerhouses like Black Adam, Darkseid, and Lobo.
Goku's best strength feat is lifting a cliff with a punch.
Lobo compressed a city to the size of a marble and then ate the city/marble.
Superman is faster. Goku like I said in fights can move hundreds of feet in an instant. Impressive, but Superman in fights has moved from Egypt to China.
Superman is far more durable. Without a doubt. I proved that last page. Goku CANNOT bust out as much power as a single black hole.
A few things that would be interesting to prove for you would be that Goku is faster than Superman (Superman is close to lightspeed at times) and that Goku could hurt Superman (Superman survives the powers of Black Holes). So if you can show that Goku can move as faster as the speed of light, and that he can produce anything as powerful as a big ass black hole then you'd have a good start to go on. Can you?