Kisame vs Deidara

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. I saw the scans already, Sasuke was not making an effort to hit him, hell, he stopped after slashing Tobi, do you even know what a speed-blitz is? It's overwhelming the opponent, not even giving them time to use their own attacks, with your speed. Sasuke did NOT try to blitz him. He barely dodged one slash not even meant for him, and then we see that Deidara had great difficulty dodging Sasuke, hence why he used an explosion to knock him away. If you are still going to defend Deidara resisting a blitz, you are biased, and a fanboy, plain and simple.

2. Um, yeah, it does. Gai is like, you know, fast. If the person were slow, he could use his speed to close the distance or evade his blows, he could not against Kisame.

3. Then prove the explosion became as big as the village. 🙂 Because the explosion was shown in ONE panel, and the sand was clearly not as large as a village, you are grabbing at straws.

4. How does Deidara create the bird before being flooded by water?

AGAIN, if it was meant for Deidara, he would have still dodged the attack, because he jumped out of the way, then the slash occured.

If Kisame was fast, he would have dodged the 6th gate, not get is ass pumbled to death. Wow, fast attacks, slow running, that's a big difference.

You are still acting as if explosions don't get bigger, that they stay one size, which is incorrect.

Gai, Neji, Lee, and even Tenten avoided the attack. While the lake is being created, Deidara creates the bird.

Originally posted by Wil Deidara
If Kisame was fast, he would have dodged the 6th gate, not get is ass pumbled to death. Wow, fast attacks, slow running, that's a big difference..

- That was a clone with 30% of his chakra.

- Kakashi needed sharingan to see Lee when he had the 4th gate, the clone still reacted to Gai using 6th gate....

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
- That was a clone with 30% of his chakra.

- Kakashi needed sharingan to see Lee when he had the 4th gate, the clone still reacted to Gai using 6th gate....

Speed doen't take chakra. 30% speed=100% speed

Gai doesn't have sharingan and he kept up with it pretty well. Gaara reacted to Lee as well, but still couldn't stop it.

Originally posted by Wil Deidara
Speed doen't take chakra. 30% speed=100% speed

Not true at all. Ninja use chakra under their feet to increase their speed in addition to clinging to surfaces.

Originally posted by Wil Deidara
Speed doen't take chakra. 30% speed=100% speed

Gai doesn't have sharingan and he kept up with it pretty well. Gaara reacted to Lee as well, but still couldn't stop it.

Chakra affects anything. A boost in chakra would naturally lead to a boost in both speed and stamina.

Even so, being able to react to Gai going 6th gate is the fastest we've seen yet.

No, you have to train your body for speed. Speed isn't counted as a jutsu.

Yeah, that's a tiny speed feat, which isn't much?

Originally posted by Wil Deidara
AGAIN, if it was meant for Deidara, he would have still dodged the attack, because he jumped out of the way, then the slash occured.

If Kisame was fast, he would have dodged the 6th gate, not get is ass pumbled to death. Wow, fast attacks, slow running, that's a big difference.

You are still acting as if explosions don't get bigger, that they stay one size, which is incorrect.

Gai, Neji, Lee, and even Tenten avoided the attack. While the lake is being created, Deidara creates the bird.

2. Gai, one of the fastest characters in the series, unlocking the 6th Gate, which makes him multiple times faster. Are you saying stupid shit like this on purpose, or are you serious? Are you implying Deidara could have dodged Gai using the 6 Gates?

3. Prove that the explosion was any bigger than what we saw. 🙂 And then there is the fact that we clearly can see the sand shield is not covering near the whole village. So you are wrong, I am right, deal with it. 🙂

4. All of whom, except maybe Tenten, are much faster than Deidara. Sasuke could not avoid Sasuke with his own speed, a lake spawning almost instantaneously will trap him.

Not that Kisame needs a single jutsu to win this fight.

Originally posted by Wil Deidara
No, you have to train your body for speed. Speed isn't counted as a jutsu.

Yeah, that's a tiny speed feat, which isn't much?

So im thinking that a clone, with 30 percent chakra, even reacting to a 6TH gate gai, is an amazing speed feat.

Originally posted by k1Lla441
How is that not much? have you seen rock lee at his 4th gate? you cant even see him move.

So im thinking that a clone, with 30 percent chakra, even reacting to a 6TH gate gai, is an amazing speed feat.

The gates use chakra, and are jutsu's. Running around doesn't use chakra.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. You're a fvcking moron. What part of "overwhelming the opponent, not even giving them time to use their own attacks, with your speed" is so hard to comprehend? Sasuke slashed once and then stopped, and then we clearly see he cannot react to Deidara's speed like you say he can, so you are just grasping at straws and acting like an idiot.

2. Gai, one of the fastest characters in the series, unlocking the 6th Gate, which makes him multiple times faster. Are you saying stupid shit like this on purpose, or are you serious? Are you implying Deidara could have dodged Gai using the 6 Gates?

3. Prove that the explosion was any bigger than what we saw. 🙂 And then there is the fact that we clearly can see the sand shield is not covering near the whole village. So you are wrong, I am right, deal with it. 🙂

4. All of whom, except maybe Tenten, are much faster than Deidara. Sasuke could not avoid Sasuke with his own speed, a lake spawning almost instantaneously will trap him.

Not that Kisame needs a single jutsu to win this fight.

1. How many jutsu's did you actually see Gai try to get off? The fact is that Deidara was able to dodge Sasuke's attack, no matter what direction he slashed.

2. Gai, only one of the fastest because of the gates. Never said that, because the 6th gate is faster than Sasuke's speed with ease.

3. You're not really reading my posts, are you? I said that they show the beginning of the explosion. You are acting like explosions don't get bigger.

4. Lee>Deidara, Neji<Deidara, Tenten<Deidara, and Gai<Deidara.
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Originally posted by Ultimate Wil
The gates use chakra, and are jutsu's. Running around doesn't use chakra.

1. How many jutsu's did you actually see Gai try to get off? The fact is that Deidara was able to dodge Sasuke's attack, no matter what direction he slashed.

2. Gai, only one of the fastest because of the gates. Never said that, because the 6th gate is faster than Sasuke's speed with ease.

3. You're not really reading my posts, are you? I said that they show the beginning of the explosion. You are acting like explosions don't get bigger.

4. Lee>Deidara, Neji<Deidara, Tenten<Deidara, and Gai<Deidara.
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Originally posted by Ultimate Wil
No, you have to train your body for speed. Speed isn't counted as a jutsu.

So? Jutsus don't have to use chakra. There are jutsu that use zero chakra. What's your point?

Pretty sure even taijutsu requires chakra, that's why Sharingan can read taijutsu, and why Sasuke felt chakra in Rock Lee's block before the chuunin exam.

And if Chakra didn't afefct your speed and strength then how come ninjas get slower and weaker when they run out of chakra?

Show me where it states that speed uses chakra. You just have to build your body up to be fast.

Originally posted by k1Lla441
now your just avoiding the arguement

Yeah, good arguement as well, clapping, bravo.

Originally posted by Ultimate Wil
1. How many jutsu's did you actually see Gai try to get off? The fact is that Deidara was able to dodge Sasuke's attack, no matter what direction he slashed.

2. Gai, only one of the fastest because of the gates. Never said that, because the 6th gate is faster than Sasuke's speed with ease.

3. You're not really reading my posts, are you? I said that they show the beginning of the explosion. You are acting like explosions don't get bigger.

4. Lee>Deidara, Neji<Deidara, Tenten<Deidara, and Gai<Deidara.
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2. O RLY? Gai even without the Gates is one of the fastest in the series, second only to guys like Itachi or Madara in terms of speed, Gai is also far faster than Deidara. Gai is faster than Sasuke, period.

3. Prove that that was only the beginning of the explosion. 🙂

4. I'm sorry, but did you just say Gai is slower than Deidara? Gai is faster than Lee, Neji is faster than Deidara in terms of reflexes by feats, and TenTen is the only one who may be slower, but that is from lack of feats.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. Gai is a TAIJUTSU specialist, not a Ninjutsu specialist, and what are you implying? We already know that Gai had an incredibly difficult time fighting Kisame, and what was your point in mentioning this irrelevant piece of anyway? He dodged ONE of Sasuke's attacks, and, it was not even aimed at Deidara, who was SPARED by Sasuke for questioning. Oh...And then, we see Deidara cannot handle Sasuke's speed. You lost this argument. Grow a pair and admit it.

2. O RLY? Gai even without the Gates is one of the fastest in the series, second only to guys like Itachi or Madara in terms of speed, Gai is also far faster than Deidara. Gai is faster than Sasuke, period.

3. Prove that that was only the beginning of the explosion. 🙂

4. I'm sorry, but did you just say Gai is slower than Deidara? Gai is faster than Lee, Neji is faster than Deidara in terms of reflexes by feats, and TenTen is the only one who may be slower, but that is from lack of feats.

1. I am not worried about Gai vs Kisame right now. Are you not getting that Deidara JUMPED OUT OF THE WAY, and then the SLASH OCCURED, or is that not getting through your thick skull.

2. With the gates Gai is faster, without them he is slower than both of them.

3. Go find the manga of the explosion.

4. Nope, Gai is faster, although Deidara does have good reflexes. Neji is only has fast reflexes because of Byakugan, and if he was fast, he would have dodged the punch from Naruto. So Deidara is still faster in reflexes as he dodged Sasuke's speed blitz, as if Neji would as well, but if he didn't have byakugan, and regular eyes, he would probably die.

Originally posted by Ultimate Wil
1. I am not worried about Gai vs Kisame right now. Are you not getting that Deidara JUMPED OUT OF THE WAY, and then the SLASH OCCURED, or is that not getting through your thick skull.

2. With the gates Gai is faster, without them he is slower than both of them.

3. Go find the manga of the explosion.

4. Nope, Gai is faster, although Deidara does have good reflexes. Neji is only has fast reflexes because of Byakugan, and if he was fast, he would have dodged the punch from Naruto. So Deidara is still faster in reflexes as he dodged Sasuke's speed blitz, as if Neji would as well, but if he didn't have byakugan, and regular eyes, he would probably die.

2. Both of who? Itachi and Madara? Duh. I just said that, now you are dodging, and Gai with the six Gates is still not as fast as Madara.

3. http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/249/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/249/12-13/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/249/14/

So as we can clearly see, the explosion, and the shield, were not as large as the whole village.

4. Neji always has had fast reflexes, with or without Byakugan, and without it is still faster than Deidara. And Sasuke did not speedblitz Deidara, I have explained to you what an actual speedblitz is multiple times, but because you're am idiot, you have chosen to ignore it.

Originally posted by Ultimate Wil
1. I am not worried about Gai vs Kisame right now. Are you not getting that Deidara JUMPED OUT OF THE WAY, and then the SLASH OCCURED, or is that not getting through your thick skull.

2. With the gates Gai is faster, without them he is slower than both of them.

3. Go find the manga of the explosion.

4. Nope, Gai is faster, although Deidara does have good reflexes. Neji is only has fast reflexes because of Byakugan, and if he was fast, he would have dodged the punch from Naruto. So Deidara is still faster in reflexes as he dodged Sasuke's speed blitz, as if Neji would as well, but if he didn't have byakugan, and regular eyes, he would probably die.

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Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. Yet you were the one who brought up what techniques Gai used. The attack was not meant for him, and it was not a speedblitz, and then when Sasuke was aiming for Deidara, Deidara could not dodge him. You lost. Deal with it.

2. Both of who? Itachi and Madara? Duh. I just said that, now you are dodging, and Gai with the six Gates is still not as fast as Madara.

3. http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/249/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/249/12-13/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/249/14/

So as we can clearly see, the explosion, and the shield, were not as large as the whole village.

4. Neji always has had fast reflexes, with or without Byakugan, and without it is still faster than Deidara. And Sasuke did not speedblitz Deidara, I have explained to you what an actual speedblitz is multiple times, but because you're am idiot, you have chosen to ignore it.

1. I see you are avoiding the 1st speedblitz fact. Deidara knew he couldn't avoid the 2nd one, but he kinda did when he blew up the C-1 bomb.

2. I know, and I was agreeing.

3. I don't care for the manga views of the explosion because what they show in some manga's are bad.

4. Incorrect. Neji can dodge Lee's speed with his byakugan, but can he dodge Lee's speed without byakugan? The answer should be simple. I got what a speedblitz is. Sasuke aimed for Tobi, but Deidara still jumped out of the way before the slash occured, so if he aimed for Deidara, he would have still avoided it. Get that through your head.

Originally posted by Ultimate Wil
1. I see you are avoiding the 1st speedblitz fact. Deidara knew he couldn't avoid the 2nd one, but he kinda did when he blew up the C-1 bomb.

2. I know, and I was agreeing.

3. I don't care for the manga views of the explosion because what they show in some manga's are bad.

4. Incorrect. Neji can dodge Lee's speed with his byakugan, but can he dodge Lee's speed without byakugan? The answer should be simple. I got what a speedblitz is. Sasuke aimed for Tobi, but Deidara still jumped out of the way before the slash occured, so if he aimed for Deidara, he would have still avoided it. Get that through your head.

1. He didnt avoid it.

2. No you werent.

3. Is this a joke?? You were the one who asked to see the manga explosion!
Posted by Ultimate Wil:
Go find the manga of the explosion.

4. If sasuke ever speed blitzed deidara, then deidara would be dead.