Nocturne is not-canon, it's basically a fanfiction featuring DMC2 Dante. The stats of Dante from it are canon, anything else- think fanfiction.
As for my opinion on the match...the only clear edge there is speed and the ability "to think on feet"- aka adaptability in the combat.
The Blade of Olympus is powerful thing, as for Sparda blades- none of Sparda sons so far have grasped the full spectrum of "legacy" blades- Sparda sword and Yamato. "Dimension-cutting" is fine and all, but a far cry from opening portals to Hell and other hinted stuff.
Overall toughness- Kratos wins there, though that's what he is- toughguy brute.
Ares was killed with a normal sword[The Blade of The Gods]TBOTG isn't magical it's just a regular sword
Based on...?
Not only does the name imply at least something, but the weapon was sent down BY the Gods for Kratos, who was imbued with the power OF the Gods, to use against Ares after losing his blades. Either way, Ares died at the hands of what was essentially an Olympian. No God in God of War has died from non-divine means. Persephone died at the hands of the Gautnlet of Zeus-and-sun-shield-wileding, Kratos, Athena died from the Blade of Olympus, which was not only forged by the King of the Gods, but also containing the power of the God of War. Zeus only survived so many stabs presumably because he was by far the most powerful God of the Olympians.
As for Shin Megami Tensei, don't speak as if Dante was the sole character defeating the likes of Lucifer when 1. He wasn't even the main character, 2. The gameplay is party-based, and 3. His inclusion into the party was optional IIRC.
Originally posted by First_Tsurugi06
Based on...?Not only does the name imply at least something, but the weapon was sent down BY the Gods for Kratos, who was imbued with the power OF the Gods, to use against Ares after losing his blades. Either way, Ares died at the hands of what was essentially an Olympian. No God in God of War has died from non-divine means. Persephone died at the hands of the Gautnlet of Zeus-and-sun-shield-wileding, Kratos, Athena died from the Blade of Olympus, which was not only forged by the King of the Gods, but also containing the power of the God of War. Zeus only survived so many stabs presumably because he was by far the most powerful God of the Olympians.
As for Shin Megami Tensei, don't speak as if Dante was the sole character defeating the likes of Lucifer when 1. He wasn't even the main character, 2. The gameplay is party-based, and 3. His inclusion into the party was optional IIRC.
He's the best against demonic-based foes there, but that's it. On top of it, the only thing from that that's canon is stats.
As for Dante's styles being canon or not, well... he still has styles as AI-controlled boss in DMC4, so it's not optional gameplay part (that's what ruled out of canon there). There's nothing except asinine desires to rule those out of canon.
To sum everything up, evasive speed edge is the only clear advantage for Dante there. Sparda\Yamato abilites are fine and dandy unless Kratos doesn't belong to the Earth\human dimension in which case "dimension-cutting" stuff is nullified. The Kratos arsenal are divine weapons, so it's not like Yamato's going to cut Blade of Olympus in half.
BTW, do you want something funny? Accroding to DMC developers it was Sparda Sr. in DMCverse who inspired humans there on creating myths about Ares\Mars (there was no real Greek gods there). Really interesting in light of the versus.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
He's the best against demonic-based foes there, but that's it. On top of it, the only thing from that that's canon is stats.As for Dante's styles being canon or not, well... he still has styles as AI-controlled boss in DMC4, so it's not optional gameplay part (that's what ruled out of canon there). There's nothing except asinine desires to rule those out of canon.
To sum everything up, evasive speed edge is the only clear advantage for Dante there. Sparda\Yamato abilites are fine and dandy unless Kratos doesn't belong to the Earth\human dimension in which case "dimension-cutting" stuff is nullified. The Kratos arsenal are divine weapons, so it's not like Yamato's going to cut Blade of Olympus in half.
BTW, do you want something funny? Accroding to DMC developers it was Sparda Sr. in DMCverse who inspired humans there on creating myths about Ares\Mars (there was no real Greek gods there). Really interesting in light of the versus.
Whoa you post outside of the Comic vs forum?
BTW, do you want something funny? Accroding to DMC developers it was Sparda Sr. in DMCverse who inspired humans there on creating myths about Ares\Mars (there was no real Greek gods there). Really interesting in light of the versus.
Ironic, yes, but the other ironic part is that tere are at least three different enemies in the DMC series who share the namesake of Greek Myth characters.
Originally posted by First_Tsurugi06
Ironic, yes, but the other ironic part is that tere are at least three different enemies in the DMC series who share the namesake of Greek Myth characters.
Echydna was some snake\lion monster in the greek mythos.
Demonic bow called Artemis...
And the developers statement that in DMCverse humans\demons war 2000+ years from the time when game happens (present day) was the inspiration for most myths.
Sparda as prototype for Ares, Mundus shaping his "default form" image as the most commonly perseived form of Zeus... quite ironic that is, right.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Echydna was some snake\lion monster in the greek mythos.Demonic bow called Artemis...
And the developers statement that in DMCverse humans\demons war 2000+ years from the time when game happens (present day) was the inspiration for most myths.
Sparda as prototype for Ares, Mundus shaping his "default form" image as the most commonly perseived form of Zeus... quite ironic that is, right.
Enchinda wasn't that a Demon from the Bible. And Sparda is nonething like Ares. Ares never saved mankind. And DMC was out before GOW =\[And they never said that]. And DMC has nonething to do with Greek Myth =\
Originally posted by First_Tsurugi06
Based on...?Not only does the name imply at least something, but the weapon was sent down BY the Gods for Kratos, who was imbued with the power OF the Gods, to use against Ares after losing his blades. Either way, Ares died at the hands of what was essentially an Olympian. No God in God of War has died from non-divine means. Persephone died at the hands of the Gautnlet of Zeus-and-sun-shield-wileding, Kratos, Athena died from the Blade of Olympus, which was not only forged by the King of the Gods, but also containing the power of the God of War. Zeus only survived so many stabs presumably because he was by far the most powerful God of the Olympians.
As for Shin Megami Tensei, don't speak as if Dante was the sole character defeating the likes of Lucifer when 1. He wasn't even the main character, 2. The gameplay is party-based, and 3. His inclusion into the party was optional IIRC.
A Titan was killed with a sickle. Ares was killed with a normal sword. Kratos SAID but that sword was there before all of that even happened. It wasn't a magical sword neither was it mention being a magical sword.
Actually he has a role regardless.
Originally posted by Burning thought
A Titan from the real Mythology, this is nothing to do with the real mythology, only based on it, saying something happened in a Myth and reflecting it on GOW is not acceptable.
So Greek Myths arn't allowed either? Well in GOW Artemis slayed a Titan with her blade[at the most].
Originally posted by Gumachi
Enchinda wasn't that a Demon from the Bible. And Sparda is nonething like Ares. Ares never saved mankind. And DMC was out before GOW =\[And they never said that]. And DMC has nonething to do with Greek Myth =\
Echydna has nothing to do with Byblical mythos (my mistake, it has, but it's another one):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echidna_(mythology)
Actually, the "inspire" thing had more to do with the role Sparda played before he rebelled against his own kind- aka the superior warlord of demonic armies and the best warrior there is.
DMC got the inspiration from different myths, I never implied that they plagiarised GOW. I only said that they incorporated bits and pieces of Grrek mythology (which they did with other mythologies from Indian to Babylonian (Gilgamesh) as well).
You're talking to the person who made Dante RT on the board🙂
Happy New Year to all, be it Dante fans or his haters, BTW.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Echydna has nothing to do with Byblical mythos.Actually, the "inspire" thing had more to do with the role Sparda played before he rebelled against his own kind- aka the superior warlord of demonic armies and the best warrior there is.
DMC got the inspiration from different myths, I never implied that they plagiarised GOW.
You're talking to the person who made Dante RT on the board🙂Happy New Year to all, be it Dante fans or his haters, BTW.
Oops sorry I was thinking of Berial.
I thought he rebelled from the beginning.
True true.
Originally posted by Gumachi
Also Kratos doesn't possess to much to kill Dante. Dante could easily do Kratos, how he did Argosax, Or kill him with E&I and it will fire at minigun speed and he isn't fast enough to block that.[Hell even if he can], or finally use Jackpot.
he has many things, from hades souls to his Blade of Olmypus or stoning Dante
Originally posted by Gumachi
So Greek Myths arn't allowed either? Well in GOW Artemis slayed a Titan with her blade[at the most].
No ONLY things from the games themselves, a manga or outside myth is not canon in this forum, infact the Myth cannot be used as any evidence for or against GOW in any fashion since characters in games are diffrent than in Myth.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Ems isn't the only whitehaired\blonde greatness of my interest. Though the Kratos vs Dante was very boring to me so I didn't post there until the amouth of crap became unbearable to read.
Frost is my one and only. My ex threatened to throw away all of my comics with Emma in it if I don't stop loving her and calling her (my ex) White Queen. I shot her. 😐
No one talks to The Rock like that.
Originally posted by Burning thought
he has many things, from hades souls to his Blade of Olmypus or stoning DanteNo ONLY things from the games themselves, a manga or outside myth is not canon in this forum, infact the Myth cannot be used as any evidence for or against GOW in any fashion since characters in games are diffrent than in Myth.
True. But if he's stoned he can Devil Trigger out. As for The Blade[only Demonic Forged weapons can kill him]. It might kill him. Because it's a weapon forged from HEAVENS AND EARTH[Hell=On Earth]. Can't argue with the Hades' Souls though[As for The Blade it's possible it MIGHT kill him]. Good points I forgot the Hades' Souls.
So say I couldn't use Zeus from God of War II vs [Enter Here]?