Kratos vs Dante

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Wil: There is your answer.

As BT said: He needed the thread/mirror otherwise he wouldn't have had to use it--AT ALL.

As an extension it would pretty much fvuck up the storyline of GOW 3 because Kratos could simply teleport himself back through time and try beating the Gods as many times as he likes before he wins.....which obviously is not the case.

He could have saved Athena as well if that's in the case. Kratos' powers are probably gone for all we know[the chamber was crumbling].

No he had no time powers, thats it....

The only reason he could go through time or manipualte the fates of any beings is because of the threads in the chamber.

Well, technially he can't manipulate anyone's thread but his own, since--well if he tries to use someone else's thread the mirror cracks. Not only that but he would have made it where he impaled Zeus and not Athena.

What do you mean by "he would have made it where he impaeld Zeus and not Athena"? he never made himself impale Athena, that was simply a mistake.

And the mirror cracking was gameplay, he obviously had to manipulate the Titans threads to change their fate into being teleported to Olympus.

He must not be able to undo his mistakes then, he got have gotten Zeus stabbed[if his "powers" are so called THAT powerful]

Gaia herself said: "You must find your thread" and technially he didn't manipulate the Titan's thread, just brought them into the future. Doesn't mean he can "wield" anyone's thread, because he would have cut Zeus thread wether he wanted to shame him or not.

he would have to have changed the Titans fate threads to have them end up in the future.

Nah. Nonething seemed changed. He was only controlling his own thread, unless Sony ****ed up.

He was not alive during the Great Titan War. 😐

Well then Sony ****ed up.

Originally posted by Gumachi
Well then Sony ****ed up.

Ive already told you Gumachi what happened, its obvious your not listening, nothing states that someone cannot use the threads of others, he would HAVE TO manipulate their threads to move them.

Like I said, he would have controlled Zeus' thread, we will just have to wait until God of War III. We haven't seen him manipulate anyone's thread[but his own]and we ain't gonna see him do it. You can't go in your thread and manipulate someone's elses, if that's in the case he manipulated Athena's thread as well. End of story.

yeh he would have if there wasnt a PIS in the game but thing is, he didnt, he controlled the Titans and his own. And no he did not manipulate Athena's thread.......what you smoking?

Nah. Still no proof he controlled their thread and how can you control 100s of Titans thread one time. If he so called "controlled the Titans" who come the Fates didn't control Ares instead of GIVING him a chance? And if changed their "fate" then the Titans would have been climbing up Mt.Olympus to begin with. You can't control someone's else's fate, how can you control 100s of Titans what has NONETHING to do with you?

My point.

Erm yes there is proof, because 100s of Titans did indeed teleport to mount Olmypus....and theres no necesserily 100s, I dont remember seeing 100 titans...wtf? Fates control Ares? giving him a chance to do what? the fates do control everyone....through their threads.....you seem to have gotten very confused with God of War.

They are climbing up mount Olmypus to begin with, Kratos changed their fate....

lmao wtf....how can you control someone elses fate? errr, perhaps through their thread maybe? lol......

Aparently not, if he changed their Fate, theoretcially there wouldn't have been a war. Atlas could still be holding the world up for all we know. Might not be hundred but it's alot of Titans. And IF he went into the future. You said he controlled the Titans, if he did that, then why didn't the Fates just kill Kratos[in other words], instead of "destroying" the sword. And if that's in the case; Kratos changed Athena's fate as well. Maybe i'm getting confused with what your saying lol.

Originally posted by Gumachi
Aparently not, if he changed their Fate, theoretcially there wouldn't have been a war. Atlas could still be holding the world up for all we know. Might not be hundred but it's alot of Titans. And IF he went into the future. You said he controlled the Titans, if he did that, then why didn't the Fates just kill Kratos[in other words], instead of "destroying" the sword. And if that's in the case; Kratos changed Athena's fate as well. Maybe i'm getting confused with what your saying lol.

No he changed their fate so that everything that happened before him appearing, them having a war, fighting the Olmypions etc etc is fine, hes not changed their entire thread, only the end of it so that instead of them getting imprisoned by Zeus, they teleport into the future when he arrives.

he doesnt control the Titans, he simply had them teleported through their threads into the future.

They could have, thats just a flaw in the gameplay, its called plot induced stupidity so that the players main character can survive. its the same thing that allows Cloud to defeat Sephiroth in AC and the reason why most villains lose despite being far superior to heroes.

Athenas fate was not changed, he did not touch her thread, she simply jumped in the way of him trying to impale Zeus and she dies.

I guess it makes more sense now...I guess?

Well, technially, Kratos knocked Zeus out of that way[and they fought], and Athena wasn't supposted to be killed[kinda hard to explain what I mean]. Heh, either way her fate must've been to die at Kratos hands.