Kratos vs Dante

Started by Gumachi50 pages

**** you and everybody else.

Originally posted by Gumachi
**** you and everybody else.

that's what Dante would say when Kratos beats him.

Right after he gets sent to hell after a bullet is put into his head.

But not half Gods

Mortal... And, canoncially, if were talking about God of War I Kratos, he was human[as if he isn't...or is he?].

Lol @ a bullet hurting Kratos.

If arrows can kill him, a bullet with demonic energy will, these bullets killed demons in 1 shot. Is Kratos bulletproof? No. Does he know what a gun is? No. Will he see a threat to the gun? No. He would get tricked just like Dante did Argosax.

-.- No bullet exerts enogh PSI to puncture Kratos' skin,so yes HE IS bullet proof.

No proof none whatsoever. If arrows can kill him bullets will, he would have been killed by a large hammer. And Kratos isn't even durable. Dante shoots Kratos in the face, Kratos dies, goes to Hell[not Hades], and suffers for all eternity. It killed a immaterial being, it would kill Kratos because he has fleshy skin.

... Kid's hopeless.

NVM.

Actually, Kratos never was, and is not human, he is a Demi-God, half god, half human. Calling him human would be like having a liger, and calling it a regular lion. And I doubt a bullet will kill him. He's taken much greater forces and not been killed, and I reckon the only reason he was pierced with the Blade of Olympus was because he was weak and Zeus was wielding it.

A human can take alot of damage and get shot in the head and die quickly. In God of War he was human. It doesn't matter what he took, if he took a arrow to the head he would die[Kratos is a mortal and has a human's body]. Being weak had nonething to do with him dying, he died by a pillar and wasn't weak, and even Athena got killed in 1 shot, and if Athena got killed in 1 shot, it wouldn't be any different than Kratos[pierced not killed].

Originally posted by Gumachi
1.Still doesn't explain why he was said to have the powers of a god, that guy didn't know he had Poseidon's Rage.

2.Lie. Kratos was the same size as the two women that was up there. And I know they weren't giants.

3.Canonically[I mean you don't see that shit in cutscenes], he had some godly powers inside him. He didn't actually drain red orbs or whatnot. What is I fight Zeus with low health from the start.

4.Fully upgraded=gameplay. He doesn't have health and shit in the game. Kratos was a god, if not, your telling me he was a large mortal? And as for Atlas, Hydra's[Main Head]is bigger than Atlas' fingers. Physical Strength=/=Endurance and Atlas had four arms.

1.Moron. It does explain. Seeing as I friggin explained it to you. Also the 'guy' you speak of is ZEUS. You think Zeus doesn't know that Kratos has magic from his brother Poseidon? lmao. You also do know that in God of War 1 the red, blue and green orbs were 'gifts' supplied to you by the gods right? I rest my case.

2.What a TERRIBLE defense. You know those ladies weren't giant for WHAT reason? These are gods you are talking about who regularly have harems and you think they can't accommodate themselves by adjusting the size of their female conquests? In all likelihood they probably weren't even human women. They may have been giant nymphs or some other thing. However it still undeniable that Kratos was already in his giant state in his throne room seeing as he fell with no indication that he changed size at all.

Also a humorous quote from Atlas should confirm to you that the Gods are giant by default, all of them. When Atlas was squeezing human sized Kratos between his thumb and forefinger he commented that "You are small even for an Olympian." An obvious reference that the Olympian gods despite their giant size were still tiny compared to the Titans.

3.Wait...what? I'm trying to understand what the hell you are saying here but your typing is just utterly terrible and your thoughts have no sense of cohesion that I can see. Let me try to break it down....
Zeus tells Kratos to drain all of his power into the blade, a story line component, Kratos promptly complies through gameplay and what does it drain first? His red orbs. You SEE his red orbs draining into the blade. Kratos after an intermission has to go back to the Blade to drain it a SECOND time and what does it drain next? His blue orbs.You SEE his blue orbs draining into the blade and his mana bar disappears. Kratos after an intermission has to go back to the Blade and drain it a THIRD time and what does it drain next? His green orbs. You SEE his green orbs draining into the blade and his health bar gets tiny. What were the three things I just described? A gameplay component that ties into a storyline component. For the last God damned time. Kratos draining his power into the blade was nothing more than a storyline component to explain why in the gameplay component you have to start all over from square 1 in a sequel. Does it get through to your head now? Do you understand that simply saying 'gameplay mechanic' is a moot point when it is tied into the storyline component?

Now, you said:
"What is I fight Zeus with low health from the start."

Ok...I ask once again, WTF are you trying to say? Your sentences are atrocious. Are you asking "why is it that I fight Zeus with low health from the start?" Probably because like I just friggin explained to you. He drained all the green orbs he gained into the blade so he was left with only his normal health. What does this have to do with anything we're discussing btw?

4. Fully upgraded = gameplay mechanic that is tied into the storyline canon. I've explained it all above already.

Ummm what? I'm trying to understand again what the hell you are talking about. When did I say in his giant form in the very beginning that he WASN'T a god? He WAS. Zeus came in and took his god powers away and thus he shrank back down into his mortal demi-god form. He doesn't have any of the powers he enjoyed as the new God of War. All we are left with is Kratos at his max as a demi-god.

As for Atlas fingers and the hydra's head...once more wtf does that have to do with anything? Atlas by his texture and make alone is made out of rock of some sort. Secondly are you trying to say pushing Atlas finger and thumb off of him is not a strength feat? It is three things: a strength, endurance and durability feat.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
1.Moron. It does explain. Seeing as I friggin explained it to you. Also the 'guy' you speak of is ZEUS. You think Zeus doesn't know that Kratos has magic from his brother Poseidon? lmao. You also do know that in God of War 1 the red, blue and green orbs were 'gifts' supplied to you by the gods right? I rest my case.

2.What a TERRIBLE defense. You know those ladies weren't giant for WHAT reason? These are gods you are talking about who regularly have harems and you think they can't accommodate themselves by adjusting the size of their female conquests? In all likelihood they probably weren't even human women. They may have been giant nymphs or some other thing. However it still undeniable that Kratos was already in his giant state in his throne room seeing as he fell with no indication that he changed size at all.

Also a humorous quote from Atlas should confirm to you that the Gods are giant by default, all of them. When Atlas was squeezing human sized Kratos between his thumb and forefinger he commented that "You are small even for an Olympian." An obvious reference that the Olympian gods despite their giant size were still tiny compared to the Titans.

3.Wait...what? I'm trying to understand what the hell you are saying here but your typing is just utterly terrible and your thoughts have no sense of cohesion that I can see. Let me try to break it down....
Zeus tells Kratos to drain all of his power into the blade, a story line component, Kratos promptly complies through gameplay and what does it drain first? His red orbs. You SEE his red orbs draining into the blade. Kratos after an intermission has to go back to the Blade to drain it a SECOND time and what does it drain next? His blue orbs.You SEE his blue orbs draining into the blade and his mana bar disappears. Kratos after an intermission has to go back to the Blade and drain it a THIRD time and what does it drain next? His green orbs. You SEE his green orbs draining into the blade and his health bar gets tiny. What were the three things I just described? A gameplay component that ties into a storyline component. For the last God damned time. Kratos draining his power into the blade was nothing more than a storyline component to explain why in the gameplay component you have to start all over from square 1 in a sequel. Does it get through to your head now? Do you understand that simply saying 'gameplay mechanic' is a moot point when it is tied into the storyline component?

Now, you said:
"What is I fight Zeus with low health from the start."

Ok...I ask once again, WTF are you trying to say? Your sentences are atrocious. Are you asking "why is it that I fight Zeus with low health from the start?" Probably because like I just friggin explained to you. He drained all the green orbs he gained into the blade so he was left with only his normal health. What does this have to do with anything we're discussing btw?

4. Fully upgraded = gameplay mechanic that is tied into the storyline canon. I've explained it all above already.

Ummm what? I'm trying to understand again what the hell you are talking about. When did I say in his giant form in the very beginning that he WASN'T a god? He WAS. Zeus came in and took his god powers away and thus he shrank back down into his mortal demi-god form. He doesn't have any of the powers he enjoyed as the new God of War. All we are left with is Kratos at his max as a demi-god.

As for Atlas fingers and the hydra's head...once more wtf does that have to do with anything? Atlas by his texture and make alone is made out of rock of some sort. Secondly are you trying to say pushing Atlas finger and thumb off of him is not a strength feat? It is three things: a strength, endurance and durability feat.

Technially, you 'gained' them by gaining Gorgon Eyes and feathers.

Kratos looked normal size. There is no proof he was a giant, how can a giant even FIT in there? He looked bigger, infact, he was brought down to human size and looked the same as he was in the throne room. Even a cutscene in God of War II shows Zeus a giant and they looked NONETHING like that.

And then he realised it was Kratos. "Uhhhh, Kratosss. "

My point. What if I fight Zeus with normal health...nvm.

No lol. He had half of his powers.

Just because he took "half" of his powers away doesn't mean he didn't have power of a God[he was said to have power]. If he did that, then how could he drain his godly power into the sword? He could be giving inborn abilities if that's the case. And Zeus came down to size. HALF of his abilites were gone. If he was a demigod, explain him falling 1000 feet away from Collosus and surviving, but having a hand hit him and injured.

No. He could have crushed him, Atlas[from my view]looked like he didn't move his fingers. It was like him holding his two fingers and not doing anything at all. He could have easily put them together and crushed him. Hell, if that was his entire hand, he could be screwed.

Originally posted by Gumachi
No proof none whatsoever. If arrows can kill him bullets will, he would have been killed by a large hammer. And Kratos isn't even durable. Dante shoots Kratos in the face, Kratos dies, goes to Hell[not Hades], and suffers for all eternity. It killed a immaterial being, it would kill Kratos because he has fleshy skin.

LMAO.

Kratos is entirely bullet proof. He does not have a humanly body at all.

Durability wise:

He has resisted a point blank godly explosion from Persephone and Ares' dying bodies.

He jumped off the tallest mountain in Greece into the Aegean Sea and was completely fine. He would have eventually drowned himself if he stayed under though. A normal man would have basically exploded into countless pieces, basically turning into chum, as soon as they hit the water.

He has been throw a mile away by the Collossus through stone buildings and was completely fine.

All of his major strength feats are a durability feat as well seeing as for every reaction there is an equal but opposite reaction.

Atlas trying to crush him would have put immense stress on his muscles and bones. He was able to resist. Kratos flipping over a giant stone monument weighing thousands of tons for sure was a test for his muscles and bones as well.

When Ares killed Kratos even THAT was a Durability feat. Ares threw a huge pointed stone pillar from basically a dozen miles away and it hit Kratos square in the torso in mere seconds. It was traveling at least a mile a second. That's 5,280 feet per second. About 5 times the speed of sound. Kratos didn't even die instantly, and was trying to push it off of his chest as well before eventually dying of blood loss. Kratos was still relatively hole. A normal man would have simply, exploded to pieces as soon as the tip of the pillar touched him. Dante HAS NEVER taken an attack of that level of force. He has been made unconcious and tired out by attacks with no force feats at all such as Mudus' final attacks.

Ares had some wicked aim to pull that off.

Well...he is/was the God of War...

True, I'm just sayin, he put Bullseye, Hawkeye, all of them to shame with that spear chuck.

Originally posted by Gumachi
1.Technially, you 'gained' them by gaining Gorgon Eyes and feathers.

2.Kratos looked normal size. There is no proof he was a giant, how can a giant even FIT in there? He looked bigger, infact, he was brought down to human size and looked the same as he was in the throne room. Even a cutscene in God of War II shows Zeus a giant and they looked NONETHING like that.

3.And then he realised it was Kratos. "Uhhhh, Kratosss. "

4.My point. What if I fight Zeus with normal health...nvm.

5.No lol. He had half of his powers.

Just because he took "half" of his powers away doesn't mean he didn't have power of a God[he was said to have power]. If he did that, then how could he drain his godly power into the sword? He could be giving inborn abilities if that's the case. And Zeus came down to size. HALF of his abilites were gone. If he was a demigod, explain him falling 1000 feet away from Collosus and surviving, but having a hand hit him and injured.

6.No. He could have crushed him, Atlas[from my view]looked like he didn't move his fingers. It was like him holding his two fingers and not doing anything at all. He could have easily put them together and crushed him. Hell, if that was his entire hand, he could be screwed.

1.Yes? Your point is what? The chests with the orbs as well as the gorgons eyes and phoenix feathers were still littered around by the gods.

2.He looked 'normal sized' because everything around him was in proportion to this Giant size. Are you seriously that idiotic? How could a giant fit in There? Maybe because that throne room is for gods? Who are you know...Giant? Jesus do I have to spell out everything for you?

3.....What the hell are you saying here? "Uhhh Kratos" What? Seriously What?

4.NVM? Ok.

5. LOL you are speaking out of your ass. If you want to numerically list out what he lost and call it 'half' then fine but you have to remember that 'half' that he lost includes immortality, invulnerability to all but specific godly weapons and or/artifacts, mass Telekinesis, mass psychic powers of illusion, and his ability to change size at will.

'He was said to have godly' powers, which I already explained to you is a situation of you straining your little brain to hard to interpret it to mean something else, that is, that he was still 'a god'. No. He was not. No need to strain yourself and try to find another solution. I layed out the explanation for you twice already. Kratos was what he was after Zeus forcibly took his god powers away--a fully powered up demi-god--Zeus granted him Godhood so he could take that away himself. Zeus did NOT simply grant Kratos everything else and thus could not take those away, he had to trick Kratos into draining the rest, which includes his amped up blades of athena, his amped up health and amped up magic. Which--again--was simply a Storyline explanation for why Kratos has to go from fully upgraded to square one.

(Off topic: and its a much better explanation that what the crappy Metroid Prime games gave you in the sequels, your weapons and armor from the first game simply go away when you start the sequel "just because" lmao.)

6. Obviously Atlas wasn't trying his best but obviously Kratos was struggling and had to keep his finger and thumb apart because you needed to play the minigame with the buttons in order to not get crushed...