That's for gameplays sake, but you're neglecting to mention how he threw the Colossus of Rhodes statue after it stepped on him, and that's hundreds, maybe thousands of tons trying to squish you. He also kept Atlas from crushing him, Atlas, the most powerful physically of the Titans. He has other feats that put his strength at legendary levels.
Originally posted by Gumachi
He was technially inside the mirror. It could have easily been a part in his life or AFTER he left the mirror[and killing Athena].He STILL NEEDED THE MIRROR[which she said]. You still haven't answered my question: If he doesn't need the mirror/thread, WHY DID HE USE IT THEN? Not his power.
no it couldnt have, i proved you wrong so please, just concede. It showed him OUTSIDE the mirror taking the titans back in time with him.
Are you hearing things? She said, exactly, and nothing more "remember kratos, you have the power to control time itself" and thats it.
I dont know why he used it, maybe he needed to, to acquire the power, maybe to alter his own fate, maybe it was just pis, but i still prove you wrong.
Originally posted by k1Lla441
no it couldnt have, i proved you wrong so please, just concede. It showed him OUTSIDE the mirror taking the titans back in time with him.Are you hearing things? She said, exactly, and nothing more "remember kratos, you have the power to control time itself" and thats it.
I dont know why he used it, maybe he needed to, to acquire the power, maybe to alter his own fate, maybe it was just pis, but i still prove you wrong.
Why did he jump INSIDE the mirror and THEN proceeded to bring them back into time. If he was outside why did the "green" thing pop up?
Meaning? Your still ignoring the fact that the power resides in these great mirrors. Power WHILE using the threads/mirrors.
Nah. Because, i'm right.
Originally posted by Gumachi
Still had godly power inside him. Didn't you hear what I said? Atlas=Weak, and it was his THUMB AND POINTER FINGER, it could have felt like pushing two pillars. I know. Still, Physically Strength=doesn't mean he wins. Speed?
Originally posted by Gumachi
Why did he jump INSIDE the mirror and THEN proceeded to bring them back into time. If he was outside why did the "green" thing pop up?Meaning? Your still ignoring the fact that the power resides in these great mirrors. Power WHILE using the threads/mirrors.
Nah. Because, i'm right.
Are you seriously deaf? did you HEAR what she said? i am going to ask you one question, answer it for me please: At 3:40, what did gaia say? She said REMEMBER KRATOS, YOU NOW HAVE THE POWER TO CONTROL TIME ITSELF and thats all she said. That was the last thing she said in the game, so its the only thing that stands. Seriously, now your just ignoring proof ive given you right to your face.
Why did he jump INSIDE the mirror and THEN proceeded to bring them back into time. If he was outside why did the "green" thing pop up? And why did he need the use the mirror? Even The Fates needed the mirror to go into the past and if they needed it KRATOS DOES. You can't just go into the past[when Zeus had the blade in him]able to use the mirror then a few mintues later you don't need it.
Meaning? Your still ignoring the fact that the power resides in these great mirrors. Power WHILE using the threads/mirrors. Because if he was smart he would've used his time powers to reverse time and prevent Athena's death, then killed Zeus, and if he had the power to do so then he would have, but he didn't, thus is the stupid brute we all know him to be and actually can NOT time travel without the appropriate thread.
Nah. Because, i'm right.
Originally posted by k1Lla441
A gentle push from atlas would still be a tremenous amount of force, but for him to apply even a little bit on kratos, and for him to resist it is astonishing. And atlas is not weak, i mean he holds up the earths crust for christs sake. Kratos' reaction speed is much faster than dantes, he blocked lightning, which is provent to travel at 60k miles per second, faster than anything dante has done/face.
You have forgotton his soul was ripped and he used his two hands and he technially used Atlas Quake. I didn't mean weak in that way.
So? Dante could block lighting if I have the RG Dante caught on fire. Reaction?
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Originally posted by k1Lla441
A gentle push from atlas would still be a tremenous amount of force, but for him to apply even a little bit on kratos, and for him to resist it is astonishing. And atlas is not weak, i mean he holds up the earths crust for christs sake. Kratos' reaction speed is much faster than dantes, he blocked lightning, which is provent to travel at 60k miles per second, faster than anything dante has done/face.Again, i have no idea, probably pis.
Are you seriously deaf? did you HEAR what she said? i am going to ask you one question, answer it for me please: At 3:40, what did gaia say? She said [b]REMEMBER KRATOS, YOU NOW HAVE THE POWER TO CONTROL TIME ITSELF
and thats all she said. That was the last thing she said in the game, so its the only thing that stands. Seriously, now your just ignoring proof ive given you right to your face. [/B]
Originally posted by Gumachi
Why did he jump INSIDE the mirror and THEN proceeded to bring them back into time. If he was outside why did the "green" thing pop up? And why did he need the use the mirror? Even The Fates needed the mirror to go into the past and if they needed it KRATOS DOES. You can't just go into the past[when Zeus had the blade in him]able to use the mirror then a few mintues later you don't need it.Meaning? Your still ignoring the fact that the power resides in these great mirrors. Power WHILE using the threads/mirrors. Because if he was smart he would've used his time powers to reverse time and prevent Athena's death, then killed Zeus, and if he had the power to do so then he would have, but he didn't, thus is the stupid brute we all know him to be and actually can NOT time travel without the appropriate thread.
Nah. Because, i'm right. Your ignoring what she said.
You know why Atlas is holding up the world Gumachi? Because of Kratos, he whooped his ass, and killed Persephone, and after that, he chained Atlas to the Pillar of the World. While he was still a mortal Demi-God, Kratos defeated the single most physically powerful Titan, by himself, while fighting a god.
Originally posted by Gumachi
1. Why did he jump INSIDE the mirror and THEN proceeded to bring them back into time. If he was outside why did the "green" thing pop up? And why did he need the use the mirror? Even The Fates needed the mirror to go into the past and if they needed it KRATOS DOES. You can't just go into the past[when Zeus had the blade in him]able to use the mirror then a few mintues later you don't need it.2. Meaning? Your still ignoring the fact that the power resides in these great mirrors. Power WHILE using the threads/mirrors. Because if he was smart he would've used his time powers to reverse time and prevent Athena's death, then killed Zeus, and if he had the power to do so then he would have, but he didn't, thus is the stupid brute we all know him to be and actually can NOT time travel without the appropriate thread.
Nah. Because, i'm right.
1. Do i have to keep going circles in circles with you? does anyone else see this? I already told you, it was probably pis. And the green portal probably popped up becuase it was probably part of his power, but ultimately i dont know.
2. Are you joking? please tell me this is a joke. In that video, i would like you to show me where it says kratos needs to use the mirrors to control time. It doesnt, so your wrong. All gaia says it that video is "REMEMBER KRATOS, YOU NOW HAVE THE POWER TO CONTROL TIME ITSELF" and thats all she said, please, concede while you can. She said nothing more in that video, is it really that hard to understand? i mean surely your not deaf are you?
Originally posted by Gumachi
Still had godly power inside him. Didn't you hear what I said? Atlas=Weak, and it was his THUMB AND POINTER FINGER, it could have felt like pushing two pillars. I know. Still, Physically Strength=doesn't mean he wins. Speed?
Lol wrong. Kratos had no 'godly' powers left other than Poseidon's Rage magic.
Kratos was already back to his normal, mortal demi-god form when Zeus took the power away and made him human sized. What was left is a fully upgraded, full sized health bar and full sized magic bar Kratos that you end up with near the end of God of War 1.
Pouring his power into the blade of olympus was a clever plot point from the game developers to explain why you Kratos has to start all over in a sequel, why Kratos' Blades went all the way back to level 1 and why his magic was gone and why his health and mana bars went all the way back down to minimal size. Since what we see getting poured into the sword are all the red orbs he's collected over time.
That also tells us that the huge collosus slap that he took as it was falling down was kratos taking that hit at his lowest level of durability. (his default health durability).
Atlas...weak? LMAO. There isn't a single being in DMC that is as strong as Atlas. Not even a quarter as strong.
As for the thumb and forefinger argument....perhaps you need a reminder of just HOW small kratos looked in that situation.
Atlas' digits ALONE would weigh a couple of thousand tons.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Lol wrong. Kratos had no 'godly' powers left other than Poseidon's Rage magic.Kratos was already back to his normal, mortal demi-god form when Zeus took the power away and made him human sized. What was left is a fully upgraded, full health and full magic Kratos that you end up with near the end of God of War 1.
Pouring his power into the blade of olympus was a clever plot point from the game developers to explain why you Kratos has to start all over in a sequel, why Kratos' Blades went all the way back to level 1 and why his magic was gone and why his health and mana bars went all the way back down to minimal size. Since what we see getting poured into the sword are all the red orbs he's collected over time.
That also tells us that the huge collosus slap that he took as it was falling down was kratos taking that hit at his lowest level of durability. (his default health durability).
Atlas...weak? LMAO. There isn't a single being in DMC that is as strong as Atlas. Not even a quarter as strong.
As for the thumb and forefinger argument....perhaps you need a reminder of just HOW small kratos looked in that situation.
Atlas' digits ALONE would weigh a couple of thousand tons.
How come he had to drain his godly powers? And he was said to still have some powers of a God. Athena is human-sized, but does that make her a mortal? He still had some powers of a god.
Nah. Above.
Also proves he dropped his godly power. If he had godly power it wouldn't have effected him. Default health? Gameplay mechanic.
Didn't mean in that way. Still doesn't mean it was as strong as pillars. And Atlas look as if he wasn't even trying to even crush Kratos, it looked like he was just sitting there.
He didn't have to drain his powers, Zeus tricked him saying that it had the power to slay all of his enemies, can't remember the exact quote. Basically he took advantage of Kratos thought processes, and tricked him. Draining all of power into the sword left him mortal and vulnerable, just like the narrator said, with none of his godly abilities. And it is true he poured all of his magic and abilities into the blade, leaving him at square 1, but he would have been able to go right back had the Colossus not fallen on him and he had the chance to take his powers back from the sword. And Atlas was trying to crush him, he was pissed, and pressing hard, which is why Kratos was struggling, but he still pushed his fingers apart, something no one other than him, or possibly Zeus could do.
Originally posted by Gumachi
How come he had to drain his godly powers? And he was said to still have some powers of a God? Athena is human-sized, but does that make her a mortal? He still had some powers of a god.Nah. Above.
Also proves he dropped his godly power. If he had godly power it wouldn't have effected him. Default health? Gameplay mechanic.
Didn't mean in that way. Still doesn't mean it was as strong as pillars. And Atlas look as if he wasn't even trying to even crush Kratos, it looked like he was just sitting there.
Lol once again Gumachi misinterprets some dialog and attributes it to mean something else ENTIRELY. He still had rage of Poseidon yes? Did you not see that I explained it already? That is a 'godly power'. That does not mean he was still a god. If he was he could have turned back into giant size at will just as all the other gods are able to do. He was already a mortal dude. Get over it.
Secondly, Athena IS NOT only human sized, she like all the gods can change their size, and their giant size is the 'default' one. When Kratos is shown in the beginning sitting on his throne in olympus, he was already in his giant size. Athena was too. That's why they were the same size in that scene. When Kratos free falls down to the Earth, he didn't change size along the way, and when he reached the Earth he was already a giant. Fancy that eh? lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITMqKBnxBLg
It's all there for you to see....in the scene man...his red orbs get completely drained first. Then he goes back to the sword and it drains his blue orbs and you can see the magic bar getting smaller until its gone. Then finally he goes back to the sword for the last time and it drains his green orbs and his health bar decreases until it is tiny.
The pouring his power into the blade bit was an official plot device to explain why have to you go from the fully upgraded kratos that you had near the end of GoW 1 to starting over completely from square one. That's why initially in the gameplay you start out with all the moves, health bar and magic bar quantity that you enjoyed once. Only to have it taken away for you as hit rock bottom and have to climb back up.
Nah? Oh amazing! You can say Nah? Ohhhh me too! Nah. See above.
Nope. Proves what I said. That fully upgraded kratos, not even god, just fully upgraded kratos could take that without a problem. Gameplay mechanic? Ohhh don't you just sound oh so clever thinking you won something there. Sorry, that was a direct canon confirmation of a gameplay mechanic to demonstrate that Kratos starts out his quests much weaker than when he finishes them. End.
As strong as pillars? Course not. Much STRONGER.
And as for Kratos controlling time, I remember him walking back into the Loom Chamber, and Clotho was still dead, then he went back in time, with no accompaniment by a portal like the other times, which shows that he had at least partial, if not total control over time on a limited scale. He also showed immense skill with the abilitiy, since he took all the Titans with him, something he wouldn't have been able to do with even one considering their size. If he brought them back to the chamber, they would have destroyed it. The only logical thing means that he gained the ability to travel through time, if not time itself, then at least through times that affect him.
Originally posted by KingD19
He didn't have to drain his powers, Zeus tricked him saying that it had the power to slay all of his enemies, can't remember the exact quote. Basically he took advantage of Kratos thought processes, and tricked him. Draining all of power into the sword left him mortal and vulnerable, just like the narrator said, with none of his godly abilities. And it is true he poured all of his magic and abilities into the blade, leaving him at square 1, but he would have been able to go right back had the Colossus not fallen on him and he had the chance to take his powers back from the sword. And Atlas was trying to crush him, he was pissed, and pressing hard, which is why Kratos was struggling, but he still pushed his fingers apart, something no one other than him, or possibly Zeus could do.
Honestly, it looked like he was barely trying and he rarely pushed it imo.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Lol once again Gumachi misinterprets some dialog and attributes it to mean something else ENTIRELY. He still had rage of Poseidon yes? Did you not see that I explained it already? That is a 'godly power'. That does not mean he was still a god. If he was he could have turned back into giant size at will just as all the other gods are able to do. He was already a mortal dude. Get over it.Secondly, Athena IS NOT only human sized, she like all the gods can change their size, and their giant size is the 'default' one. When Kratos is shown in the beginning sitting on his throne in olympus, he was already in his giant size. Athena was too. That's why they were the same size in that scene. When Kratos free falls down to the Earth, he didn't change size along the way, and when he reached the Earth he was already a giant. Fancy that eh? lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITMqKBnxBLg
It's all there for you to see....in the scene man...his red orbs get completely drained first. Then he goes back to the sword and it drains his blue orbs and you can see the magic bar getting smaller until its gone. Then finally he goes back to the sword for the last time and it drains his green orbs and his health bar decreases until it is tiny.The pouring his power into the blade bit was an official plot device to explain why have to you go from the fully upgraded kratos that you had near the end of GoW 1 to starting over completely from square one. That's why initially in the gameplay you start out with all the moves, health bar and magic bar quantity that you enjoyed once. Only to have it taken away for you as hit rock bottom and have to climb back up.
Nah? Oh amazing! You can say Nah? Ohhhh me too! Nah. See above.
Nope. Proves what I said. That fully upgraded kratos, not even god, just fully upgraded kratos could take that without a problem. Gameplay mechanic? Ohhh don't you just sound oh so clever thinking you won something there. Sorry, that was a direct canon confirmation of a gameplay mechanic to demonstrate that Kratos starts out his quests much weaker than when he finishes them. End.
As strong as pillars? Course not. Much STRONGER.
Still doesn't explain why he was said to have the powers of a god, that guy didn't know he had Poseidon's Rage.
Lie. Kratos was the same size as the two women that was up there. And I know they werent giants.
Canoncially[I mean you don't see that shit in cutscenes], he had some godly powers inside him. He didn't actually drain red orbs or whatnot. What is I fight Zeus with low health from the start.
Fully upgraded=gameplay. He doesn't have health and shit in the game. Kratos was a god, if not, your telling me he was a large mortal? And as for Atlas, Hydra's[Main Head]is bigger than Atlas' fingers. Physical Strength=/=Endurance and Atlas had four arms.
Originally posted by Gumachi
Still doesn't explain why he was said to have the powers of a god, that guy didn't know he had Poseidon's Rage.Lie. Kratos was the same size as the two women that was up there. And I know they werent giants.
Canoncially[I mean you don't see that shit in cutscenes], he had some godly powers inside him. He didn't actually drain red orbs or whatnot. What is I fight Zeus with low health from the start.
Fully upgraded=gameplay. He doesn't have health and shit in the game. Kratos was a god, if not, your telling me he was a large mortal? And as for Atlas, Hydra's[Main Head]is bigger than Atlas' fingers. Physical Strength=/=Endurance and Atlas had four arms.
did you even read a single thing he said? i mean i like you kid, but it seems like your ignoring everyones posts.