After watching the performance a couple more times (thanks to my TDK DVD), I think we overrated Heath Ledger's (R.I.P.) Joker a tiny bit...
Don't get me wrong, he's still bar none the best live action Joker we've ever had the pleasure of viewing (Jack's is still good, though, especially during the Joybuzzer scene), but he didn't seem "amazing" anymore after the first viewing (maybe that's just me)...
Let me put it this way: Is Heath's Joker the best we've seen? Hell yeah. Is he untouchable in the role? Absolutely not.
I think it's just like with Christian Bale as Batman: The first time you saw him in character, you were in awe, and immediately went on the internet to rant about how awesome he was, but after repeated viewings, you begin to realize it isn't the perfect performance...
But yeah, Ledger > Nicholson, though I still enjoy Jack's Englehart/Rogers Joker...
I like both for different reasons. I feel like Jack's Joker is more wacky dark insane like in the comics but I feel Heath's Joker's definitely was a scarier villain but he had a completely different backdrop to work against. I appreciate both though. I think the Dark Knight as a whole was just such a great movie that everything it is quite superior to most anything in the comic book movie genre though. Well except that horrid Bat voice.
Originally posted by starlock
Joker 89 for the stompHeaths joker was a run of the mil..psycho.....that was not the joker to me....jacks joker at least tried to be more like the comics and succeded...i dont think it was heaths fault...i think it has more to do with Nolan trying to make the movie as real life as he could.
...... But the 89 Joker was cheesy 😕
run of the mill? I don't know ANYbody that can put up a performance like that.
Originally posted by TheGame17
...... But the 89 Joker was cheesy 😕run of the mill? I don't know ANYbody that can put up a performance like that.
Ooh, i can think of 1 actor that could have brought us somethign JUST as spectacular to the role, D.D Lewis.
But saying that, what heath did with the role was nothing short of amazing. No-one expected it. A nd because he is the only one who could have played it that way, he deserves an oscar.
Originally posted by Bat Dude
After watching the performance a couple more times (thanks to my TDK DVD), I think we overrated Heath Ledger's (R.I.P.) Joker a tiny bit...Don't get me wrong, he's still bar none the best live action Joker we've ever had the pleasure of viewing (Jack's is still good, though, especially during the Joybuzzer scene), but he didn't seem "amazing" anymore after the first viewing (maybe that's just me)...
Let me put it this way: Is Heath's Joker the best we've seen? Hell yeah. Is he untouchable in the role? Absolutely not.
I think it's just like with Christian Bale as Batman: The first time you saw him in character, you were in awe, and immediately went on the internet to rant about how awesome he was, but after repeated viewings, you begin to realize it isn't the perfect performance...
But yeah, Ledger > Nicholson, though I still enjoy Jack's Englehart/Rogers Joker...
I pretty much agree with everything you said except for the part of Bale as Batman since he is really the only true Bruce Wayne/Batman to have played the role so far.As you know,Bale was everything I always expected out of both Bruce Wayne/Batman that none of the other actors could ever grasp completely.so i totally disagree that after repeated viewings of him that he didnt give the perfect performance.Other than that,I agree with everything you said.Yeah he was the best to have played the role on the movie screen anyways.I still like Romero as the best of them all though as far as live action actors.counting Mark I likes Marks the best though.but yeah Ledger isnt untouchable as Joker.I also agree with what Keefer said that both Jack and Ledger were good in the part cause both are different interpretations.same applies to Romero.