Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
The scene implicates that he timed it. What you're saying is of course plausible, I don't see why he would do it if he saw the gangsters entering a truck.
I prefer Joker 89 even though joker 08 was amazing. In all fairness though. Joker 08 had much more movie time than Joker 89 and a script that was designed to make him look good unlike the script for Joker 89 which was designed for Batman.
Also, since was Joker 89 was the first real Batman movie in a long time I believe Burton tried his best to make the fans happy by including as much of what we know about the joker in the movie as possible. Norton did not have to do this we already had the Burton movies. This allowed more movie time for Joker 08.
to me there is NO comparison between Jack's Joker and Heath's Joker..
Jack was good, but Ledger was just simply a whole lot better
Also another main difference which I loved between the two..was the fact that Ledger's Joker had no origin story he was simply there and wanted to cause chaos and anarchy , while Burton had to give Jack a silly origin by having Batman drop him into the acid which I thought was horrible
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Also another main difference which I loved between the two..was the fact that Ledger's Joker had no origin story he was simply there and wanted to cause chaos and anarchy , while Burton had to give Jack a silly origin by having Batman drop him into the acid which I thought was horrible
Burton did not give the Joker just some random story. The way it happen is from Burton but not the story. Joker is speculated or it is canon that he was a gangster before becoming the Joker. It was also the chemical deformity that made him mad. People who knew the Joker stories and who did not was able to relate with his character.
As a respected and top gangster we understood why he had access to so many people and things, which we get none of in Nolan’s version. Joker appears and is the super villain who does all things and has access to everything. Why because everyone around him including Batman is stupid. The fact the Joker is a chemical genius was brought out by Burton version and never in Nolan’s version. What you like is the new version of the Joker and not the original.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Read The Killing Joke and Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth and then tell me that Jack's Joker is more faithful to the comics.The original and current Joker is an intelligent lunatic with a sadistic sense of humor, but also with some sort of method to his madness.
He wants to prove as Crimzon said, morality is bullshit, and insanity is the natural thing.
Sure, Jack had all the funny gadgets, but those are just superficial things. He lacked the Joker ideology.
Joker has an obsession with Batman, and desires to make Batman just like him, a murderer.
All are traits of Heath's Joker.
Originally posted by Kotor3
Burton did not give the Joker just some random story. The way it happen is from Burton but not the story. Joker is speculated or it is canon that he was a gangster before becoming the Joker. It was also the chemical deformity that made him mad. People who knew the Joker stories and who did not was able to relate with his character.As a respected and top gangster we understood why he had access to so many people and things, which we get none of in Nolan’s version. Joker appears and is the super villain who does all things and has access to everything. Why because everyone around him including Batman is stupid. The fact the Joker is a chemical genius was brought out by Burton version and never in Nolan’s version. What you like is the new version of the Joker and not the original.
I know all about the Joker.. Burton did a bad job especially saying that Batman is responsible..
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
The Joker ideology first and foremost resides with everything being a Joke. That is what makes his character unique. Everything is one big Joke to him. Here are some of the most important characteristics of the Joker that Burton was able to express in much less movie time than Nolan:
• Chemically deformed
• Insane
• Crime Lord
• Jokester
• Obsessed with Batman
• Chemical Genius
Please tell me how many of those Nolan’ version clearly expressed? For the record I am fine with the fact that some people prefer Nolan’s version however his script definitely catered to the Joker whereas Burton’s catered to Batman.
Originally posted by Kazenji
Do you even read the Batman comics Kotor3 because BruceSkywalker does especally how he said "I know all about the Joker"so yeah who has the better opinion of the Joker.......BruceSkywalker does.
I am not even going to answer that question. If BruceSkywalker is your critic for Batman then fine, don't bring it up to me. I could care less.
Originally posted by Kazenji
Look go out and read The Killing Joke and Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth then reply back.
I really do not know what your problem is. Nolan's version is based upon those not Burton's. You do know when The Killing Joke and Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth were released?