Originally posted by darthgoober
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Goober this is all the same nonsense I've heard before, when you tried to claim SS combat speed was comparable to supes you were shown that is not the case. I think you really should just drop that point because SS has never shown the capcity to ultalize speed in combat to the same effect supes has...and really I''ve been waiting for a scan to manifest to disprove me. Amazo had to work hard to put supes down with red solar energy is the point, and there are a series of other examples of supes confronting his"exploitations"and overcoming them and even winning the fight. What Eny pointed out was low balling which has already been addressed, and T-VO has forced a skyfather level character into it and nothing from SS convinces me he could resist the effects.
Thanos having better reflexes then supes is laughable...and BFR on supes is incredibly unlike since CIS is off and supes won't be backing off using his speed...its not a decisive win watsoever when supes could easily T-VO SS and Genis for a auto win.
Originally posted by Enyalus
I've done nothing of the sort and I wish you'd cease with your mindless prattle. You made an incorrect assertion when you said that Amazo exerted himself downing Superman. He does it three times in two issues and nowhere is that mentioned. The evidence was posted and supports me, so you were wrong on that. I've shown other evidence (Ruin arc) which shows Superman being dropped by red solar radiation there, too. Furthermore, every single reader of Superman ever knows that one of Superman's weaknesses is red solar energy. Another is Kryptonite. Genis and (probably) Surfer would be able to replicate both. Surfer's blasts can destroy a planet, while Photon's powerful enough to tear holes in the fabric of reality. Again, he draws his power from the Big Bang itself as well as Entropy, and everything inbetween. A K-nite or red sun blast from either would drop Supes immediately.I believe the word you were looking for is 'impartial.' Freudian slip?
Anywho, realistically Photon is capable of soloing team two.
That's him taking out multiple people by inverting their molecular structure. No one on team two has a defense against that - but for argument's sake lets say that he only decides to take out Diana and J'onn with that attack. That leaves Superman, whom he would be able to drop with a K-nite or red sun energy blast. Or a BFR to the Microverse. Or even tearing a whole in space and sucking him through it. And there are other ways for him to solo, too. As Photon he's also capable of creating stasis fields, so he won't have to fight each opponent at the same time. Luckily, he's got SS to back him up, and both are more than capable of holding their own and overpowering team two.
And hey, no one on team two is capable of BFR. How exactly do you propose they take Genis out, anyway? He had his throat slit with an adamanium blade and healed it by folding space around the wound. Didn't give any indication that it even hurt. He gets his arms and legs and head cut off and was still alive with again, no indication of being in pain at all. They needed to disperse his parts across various timelines in the Darkforce dimension to ensure he didn't pull himself together. He's pure photonic energy. They can't harm him.
Team One wins.
By the way - if all any of you team two proponents can throw out in defense of your point is claiming that Supes doesn't have a weakness to red solar energy or K-nite, or simply say, "T-vo for the win," then don't even bother replying to this post. I won't waste my time replying to you.
You already got warned for low balling and im gonna sound like a broken record explaining why everything u just stated is either false or wrongly mis-represented. Dude if you don't know anything about supes its ur own fault not mine.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
You already got warned for low balling and im gonna sound like a broken record explaining why everything u just stated is either false or wrongly mis-represented. Dude if you don't know anything about supes its ur own fault not mine.
1) I did not receive a warning and I never have.
2) None of what I said was false.
3) Prove me wrong if you can. But at least back it up. Or concede.
Oh, and I didn't realize the stipulation about CIS being off. In that case, Photon can go for the kill. Scary thought.
Originally posted by Enyalus
By statements, Photon should be the most powerful incarnation of Genis. But he was only in 11 issues or so and doesn't have many feats. Plus he is more merciful than in some other forms - much like classic Surfer and Supes. Doesn't really have that killer instinct.
Meh photon was the form of genis that i disliked the most really. He became a bit to boy scoutish. Now insane genis, that was a cool character.
Originally posted by Enyalus
1) I did not receive a warning and I never have.2) None of what I said was false.
3) Prove me wrong if you can. But at least back it up. Or concede.
Oh, and I didn't realize the stipulation about CIS being off. In that case, Photon can go for the kill. Scary thought.
It was low balling feats u should that are contradicted by a merit of other feats, SS cause black holes or photon doing whatever means nothing if they cannot secure ACTUAL VICTORIES over opponents.Point is Supes punches has cause some skyfathers pain...SS best blast left Thanos smiling. T-VO FTW.
Originally posted by The Great GalenWhat?
It was low balling feats u should that are contradicted by a merit of other feats, SS cause black holes or photon doing whatever means nothing if they cannot secure ACTUAL VICTORIES over opponents.Point is Supes punches has cause some skyfathers pain...SS best blast left Thanos smiling. T-VO FTW.
Originally posted by Anti-Monitor
And? the average kryptonian is not on Supes level.
sorry bud but supes challenges Genis hes in deep shit. Genis on a bad day is meannnnnn he reminds me of orion but much more versital. Substitute supes for orion that will be better, and no flying aloud and drop wonderwoman.
