Originally posted by Starscream M
deadpool owned taskmaster...who is arguably Elektra's superior
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Elektra's owned him too, only harder, faster and with greater ease than Deadpool. 😱
Another thing to add to large list of things you didn't know, but felt the need to comment on I guess.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Blade doesn't "vamp out", this isn't Buffy. 🙄Once again. One: Wolverine's healing factor would have long dispelled those bullets from his body. I've provided you with scans of this. 'Nuff Said. Two: Blade using silver bullets is speculation (like your entire misguided interpretation of the fight). He Blade was using silver bullets, and he thought said silver bullets where still inside Wolverine (lmao), then why did he say that he would only need to stake him once Wolverine was changed? Maybe you'd like to explain that? Further more how do you know that Blade was intending to use the vampire blood on Wolverine the whole fight? That he wasn't trying and just luring Wolverine in? How do you know it wasn't a last ditch back up plan that he brought with him, just in case? I know, because this is the only way you can rationalise the fight so that Blade doesn't look like a chump. 🙄
And Wolverine has been bit by Vampires before with no effect. The only vampire who has had any effect on Wolverine (and it was brief) was Dracula, so it stands to reason his vampire blood wouldn't have done the trick anyway.
1. no they wouldnt have, in teh scans you provided wolverine disspelled the bullets and fresh skin covered the wholes, in the fight wolverines wounds were still a dark red.
2. Blade usually uses silver bullets, and has never stated to use any other bullets that I can remember, the nagain it would be just as simple as picking up two stakes and forming a cross and wolverine would be ash.
3. You're interpretation is just as misguided, such as Wolverine letting blade get in the first hit, missing with his claws on purpose, then blade missing a punch (in which the panel has wolverines head flying back)...yeah Im the misguided one.
4. You're ridiculous, you want to pick and choose certain quotes, you believe blade when he says he needed to stake wolverine, however when he says blade and wolverine are equal its a lie, when he infers he isn't wearing kevlar it's just to try and prove he's a vampire, you're such a joke.
5. Wolverine has shown he can be turned into a vampire, and I'm sure you dont have a scan of a vampire bite having no effect on wolverine.
6. You're criticizing me for my interpretation on the fight when you've been calling people fanboys for not seeing your version of the fight in which Wolverine completely dominates blade in every way possible....yeah ok that makes sense.
Originally posted by Trackz
shes hardly nameless and was the star along-side blade in the tomb of dracula series.dracula has beaten characters like wolverine effortlessly and he has had trouble with Blade on numerous occasions.
Blade got wolverine close enough to put the vampire serum to his neck, how else would he get close enough to inject him the vampire serum (it's obvious she had been planning to use it the entire fight). Would he throw it at wolverine and risk wolverine dodging it (he has after-all read about wolverines skills and would no of his speed) does he make it blatant and go in trying to stab him with it, no. the best possible choice of action would be to get wolverine close-enough on his own terms to inject the vampire fluid. Blade did just that.
1.Semantics. Point is it is rather hilarious that you liken her skill to Logan,DD,Shang etc.
2. 🤨 That has absolutely bugger all to do with martial arts skill. Doctor Strange has probably owned the hell out of goodness knows how many characters over the years, skilled and unskilled.......................I suppose he is top tier too then. 🙄
3.So Blade's best chance was to try to use a plot device which, if we use the vampirezez pwnzez allz logic, would have made the situation worse for poor old Blade. Fact is he had to do this against a very tired couldn't give a shit Logan and he still looked poor. 😱
Originally posted by srankmissingninShe did it easier than a handcuffed Deadpool who was toying with him?
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Elektra's owned him too, only harder, faster and with greater ease than Deadpool. 😱
Another thing to add to large list of things you didn't know, but felt the need to comment on I guess.
Originally posted by Warrior18
1.Semantics. Point is it is rather hilarious that you liken her skill to Logan,DD,Shang etc.2. 🤨 That has absolutely bugger all to do with martial arts skill. Doctor Strange has probably owned the hell out of goodness knows how many characters over the years, skilled and unskilled.......................I suppose he is top tier too then. 🙄
3.So Blade's best chance was to try to use a plot device which, if we use the vampirezez pwnzez allz logic, would have made the situation worse for poor old Blade. Fact is he had to do this against a very tired couldn't give a shit Logan and he still looked poor. 😱
She was one of hte most skilled vampire hunters around, I don't know much about shang-chi but isn't he only a master of kung-fu, and it isn't like many of these characters don't beat each other. ABC logic isn't really going to prove one is more silled, spiderman has fought more skilled based opponents tha Blade however he isn't more skilled at all. I ask you how is elektra more skilled her beating other characters doesn't really show it as Blade has beaten a slew of characters who ELektra couldn't beat,
I say dracula beat wolverine effortlessly because he did so in hand-to-hand combat before turning him (which just have easily been dracula ripping his throat out)
....no, that was however the only chance blade had at killing wolverine though. Wolverine and Blade were under the same stress, Wolverine had just fought Omega Red, Blade had just fought morbius and SHIELD agents, Blade didn't want to fight wolverine and he makes that apparent as he has no problem at all with leaving wolverine alone at the end of the issue.
Originally posted by Trackz
She was one of hte most skilled vampire hunters around, I don't know much about shang-chi but isn't he only a master of kung-fu, and it isn't like many of these characters don't beat each other. ABC logic isn't really going to prove one is more silled, spiderman has fought more skilled based opponents tha Blade however he isn't more skilled at all. I ask you how is elektra more skilled her beating other characters doesn't really show it as Blade has beaten a slew of characters who ELektra couldn't beat,I say dracula beat wolverine effortlessly because he did so in hand-to-hand combat before turning him (which just have easily been dracula ripping his throat out)
....no, that was however the only chance blade had at killing wolverine though. Wolverine and Blade were under the same stress, Wolverine had just fought Omega Red, Blade had just fought morbius and SHIELD agents, Blade didn't want to fight wolverine and he makes that apparent as he has no problem at all with leaving wolverine alone at the end of the issue.
1.No offence. You're absolutely correct that you don't know much about Shang chi. Guy has been around for years and has always been one of Marvel's best. Some random woman who popped up in a Blade series with little or no feats to her name compared to elite legitimate top tiers is not the same as DD, Logan etc.
Don't you understand Elektra has been shown to have skill equal, close to or greater than all the top tier fighters she has come up against? Ergo she is more skilled than Blade who hasn't.
Clearly if I think Elektra can beat Blade then I think she would curbstomp anyone Blade has fought, be it through skill or any other means.
Nobody Blade has beaten comes any where near to the level of SKILL as the people Elektra has.
2. Oh yeh the same Dracula whose power level fluctuates horribly. 🙄
3. Most characters would rather fight Morbious and shield agents as opposed to Omega Red. 😬
Seriously though, a relatively fresh Blade looked very poor against a disinterested even tired Logan who had just fought a prolonged battle against possibly the most taxing character from his rogues gallery.
Originally posted by Trackz
..yes..he does, unless you havent read his fights in which pops his fangs out and goes into battle, Blade calls this a "mad-on", he did so against Dracula, Dr. Doom, spiderman, and several other foes.
Another baseless assumption from trackz! He's fangs can retract. He doesn't have an off switch for his stats. 🙄
And his teeth were clenched the whole fight, you can't say for any certainty that his fangs even were retracted.
Originally posted by Trackz
1. no they wouldnt have, in teh scans you provided wolverine disspelled the bullets and fresh skin covered the wholes, in the fight wolverines wounds were still a dark red.
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Blood transfer from his bullet wounds to his uniform and back again. 😱
One again. If the Wolverine's healing factor couldn't even heal the entry wound of bullet then how was he standing? He took more then half a dozen bullets center mass, where his heart and lungs are located. Is it really your contention that he could even heal the entry wound of the bullet, the initial damage, but somehow he managed to operate with a punctured lung and severed aorta with no ill effects? Seriously?
Originally posted by Trackz
2. Blade usually uses silver bullets, and has never stated to use any other bullets that I can remember, the nagain it would be just as simple as picking up two stakes and forming a cross and wolverine would be ash.
And he usually fights vampires!!! He's said himself that silver bullets are expensive and they misfire alot seems like a waste of time. 😱
And he has used traditional bullets, tranqs and holopoint silver-nitrate bullets before. 😱
And Wolverine could kill him before he made a cross 😱
Originally posted by Trackz
3. You're interpretation is just as misguided, such as Wolverine letting blade get in the first hit, missing with his claws on purpose, then blade missing a punch (in which the panel has wolverines head flying back)...yeah Im the misguided one.
My interpretation of what happened is exactly what happened on panel and doesn't require any sort of speculation.
Wolverine isn't interest in fighting.
Blade stabs him. Wolverine is unphased says "ouchie" and walks down the sword.
Wolverine is curious if Blade has a healing factor so he graces his check with his claws. The answer is apparently no since Blade doesn't heal so Wolverine retracts his claws for the next blow and sends Blade flying across the room.
Blade shoots Wolverine, who closes the gap, and disarms Blade for a second time.
Wolverine pins Blade to the ground and his him dead to rights, but doesn't finish him off because he isn't in the business of killing heroes.
Blade has a vampire vile that may or may not work. Wolverine tells him to try it. Blade doesn't.
Stalemate? 😱
Originally posted by Trackz
4. You're ridiculous, you want to pick and choose certain quotes, you believe blade when he says he needed to stake wolverine, however when he says blade and wolverine are equal its a lie, when he infers he isn't wearing kevlar it's just to try and prove he's a vampire, you're such a joke.
Because Blade saying that he and Wolverine are evenly matched isn't a statement he is even remotely qualified to make, especially after an unwilling Wolverine effortlessly stomped him into the ground. He is how ever qualified to make a statement based on what weaponry he was using... seems like something he would know. His comment to Wolverine was Blade trying to safe face, what did you think he was going to say? "Let me go because I suck?" If he was interested in the truth he would have told him the real reason he stopped fighting. There is a difference between the nature of the two quotes, and I'm not sure why you can't see it.
Originally posted by Trackz
5. Wolverine has shown he can be turned into a vampire, and I'm sure you dont have a scan of a vampire bite having no effect on wolverine.
He's shown that Dracula can turn him into a vampire briefly, and that other vampires can't. Dracula isn't an ordinary vampire, he is an exception to a lot of vampire conventions. He can change Wolverine into a vampire, other vampires can't.
Like I said before. It happens in Wolverine: Black Rio. You haven't read it? I'm shocked! 🙄
Originally posted by Trackz
6. You're criticizing me for my interpretation on the fight when you've been calling people fanboys for not seeing your version of the fight in which Wolverine completely dominates blade in every way possible....yeah ok that makes sense.
I criticize your interpretation of the fight because it isn't what happened on the panels. Your interpretation of the fight is one giant list of speculations about things that weren't said on panel, and weren't shown on panel but you apparently think were happening to secretly make Blade look better then he actually was. Wolverine stomped him into the ground effortlessly. Blade had a vile of vampire blood that may or may not have worked, and even if it did work would only have made Wolverine stronger / faster than he was to begin with in a situation where Wolverine already held virtually all the cards.
Blade's "fight" with Morbius was nothing more then a punch and a slap, and then Morbius called the "Cape Killers" and they took Blade down quickly and with minimal effort. Little happened, and although there wasn't a time line given, even if Blade went straight to Wolverine's house after he read the files and got the blood, that "fight" with Morbius and the SHIELD Agents isn't enough to even begin to suggest that he wasn't at his fighting best.
And Blade started the fight with Wolverine. You can say "well Blade didn't want to fight Wolverine either," but it doesn't really hold up. He came to Wolverine's house with the sole intention of fighting him. If Blade really didn't want to fight Wolverine he could have gone AWOL, he could have sat down with Wolverine and explained the situation to him, and at the very least, if he really wasn't interested in fighting, he could have let Wolverine get his beer first. But he didn't do any of those things, he showed up and Wolverines place and attacked him... and he got stomped into the ground for his effort.
