Juggernaut vs adamantium wall (PRIMARY adamantium!)

Originally posted by wolverex84
Near-Unbreakable Flesh: Since Cage's skin cannot be lacerated by conventional materials, his superhuman durability is a hindurance if he suffers injuries that are too severe for him to heal on his own and require surgery, such as internal injuries. While his skin can be lacerated by a highly powerful medical laser and weapons composed of Adamantium, neither of these would be readily available or easily accessible.

this proves that it is not conventional.. because it is not ordinary by normal standards..

btw since when is durability hindrance for healing factor? 🤨 for example Hulk skin get harder the more he gets angrier, but he also heals faster

Superman also heals super fast yet hes stated to be harder then adamantium (secondary adamantium at least)

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
"RL normal standards" is not "marvel comics normal standards" 😛

btw since when is durability hindrance for healing factor? 🤨 for example Hulk skin get harder the more he gets angrier, but he also heals faster

Superman also heals super fast yet hes stated to be harder then adamantium (secondary adamantium at least)

if it is not then why will marvel say it is not "normal standards"
where did you hear that superman was harder than secondary adamantium.? i know he field is harder than diamond..

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
"RL normal standards" is not "marvel comics normal standards" 😛

btw since when is durability hindrance for healing factor? 🤨 for example Hulk skin get harder the more he gets angrier, but he also heals faster
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Originally posted by wolverex84
if it is not then why will marvel say it is not "normal standards"

hey theres different definitions for "conventional" for example in RL some ppl call nukes "non conventional" weapons 😄

where did you hear that superman was harder than secondary adamantium.? i know he field is harder than diamond..

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
maybe wherever they said "normal standard" (if they did say it) they mean only "earth standards"

hey theres different definitions for "conventional" for example in RL some ppl call nukes "non conventional" weapons 😄
Supe was protecting a guy against some kinda beam weapon and the guy said the beam was strong enough to cut adamantium (Supe wasnt even affected by it)

well right.. 🙂, yet adamantium can take point-blank mutiple nukes with no damage.

but that doesn't mean he is harder than secondary adamantium.. his force fields has light/electrical constructs that can deflect laser beams.. it can take high temps.. it is extemely hard.. but i am not sure if it is as hard as secondary adamantium.

men we are totally off topic..lol

Originally posted by wolverex84
well right.. 🙂, yet adamantium can take point-blank mutiple nukes with no damage.

but that doesn't mean he is harder than secondary adamantium.. his force fields has light/electrical constructs that can deflect laser beams.. it can take high temps.. it is extemely hard.. but i am not sure if it is as hard as secondary adamantium.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
hey his "bio forcefield" made him resist a beam that the guy said could cut thru adamantium so that means hes at least more resistent then secondary adamantium 🙂 not sure about primary, tho (was it stated on panel how much weaker is secondary adamantium compared to primary? is it a lot weaker or just a bit weaker?)

Because True Adamantium is exceptionally difficult and expensive to create, various researchers found a more cost-effective way to duplicate it, at the expense of qquality and durability . This alternate version, referred to as Secondary Adamantium is considerably stronger than even Titanium and is resistant against most assaults. However, assaults from sufficiently powerful weapons or beings(superman) can warp or break it.

so yeah it is a lot weaker than primary adamantium

Originally posted by wolverex84
However, assaults from sufficiently powerful weapons or beings(superman) can warp or break it.

so yeah it is a lot weaker than primary adamantium

btw Hulk has cause (minor) damage to primary adamantium with only his fists! (he made a crack in it and he didnt look that pissed either)

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
doesnt mean its a lot weaker (I say that cause iirc marvel site says its "somewhat weaker" but some other sources say its "a lot weaker" so maybe its never stated clear on panel)

btw Hulk has cause (minor) damage to primary adamantium with only his fists! (he made a crack in it and he didnt look that pissed either)

didn't they leter claim than it was secondary adamantium.. not primary..

at the expense of quality and durability mean it is enough to show that it is alot weaker than primary adamantium..

Originally posted by wolverex84
didn't they leter claim than it was secondary adamantium.. not primary..

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
If you're talking about his FF? He still has it.

If you're talking about his ability to cast spells, then yes, he lost those abilities.

I know about the FF, i was talking of all those other weird abilities he used to have.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
NOPE!
secondary adamantium was the Ultron version where Wonder Man crushed his skull with his bear hands
the version Hulk was fighting was true adamantium armor 😎 (but it was only a small crack)

he only slightly dented it.. not sure he cracked it, so why can't he just crack or dent wolverine skull if he can crack the adamantium you said he cracked?

Originally posted by wolverex84

he only slightly dented it.. not sure he cracked it, so why can't he just crack or dent wolverine skull if he can crack the adamantium you said he cracked?

maybe he wasnt strong enough when he tried against wolverine (theres this comic where he rips wolverine in half but not sure if its cannon)

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
no no he cracked it (small crack enough for that bee chick to slip inside and **** up Ultrons circuits thats how they defeated it)

maybe he wasnt strong enough when he tried against wolverine (theres this comic where he rips wolverine in half but not sure if its cannon)

that was the ultimate universe.. his joints are not connected with adamantium in that universe..

Yeah, Wasp said he dented it enough for her to slip inside.

He cracked his joints, which are slightly weaker than limbs and main parts.

And the ripping in half was canon in Ultimate only, and Ultimate Colossus ripped Logans leg off.

And pure adamantium at full strength can't be broken in 616, which is why Hulk beat Logan hard enough to make his brain bounce around in his skull, knocking him unconscious.

now do u agree juggernaut can't pass through the adamantium wall?

if adamantium wall can stop him then that means theres other non-magic things that can stop him too? (like super strong forcefield?)

Who are you asking? Because in my opinion, he uproot the wall if the floor wasn't adamantium as well, but since it is, I think he won't stop pushing till he actually shakes the foundations, but he won't get through the wall.