Juggernaut vs adamantium wall (PRIMARY adamantium!)

Originally posted by Naija boy
Didnt Classic juggs lose all his no physical abilities quite some time ago?

No.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
No.

Note here how he talks about the ruby being the source of his muscle and then talks about the loss of his mystical abilities. clearly here he is talking about the loss of all abilities that are not related to his "muscle" or in other words all non physical abilities.

If you're talking about his FF? He still has it.

If you're talking about his ability to cast spells, then yes, he lost those abilities.

OK so then your saying classic jug is NOT unstoppable then?

for example can Cytorak himself be imprison by adamantium shell? [/B][/QUOTE]

yes he is not unstoppable, physically he is, but mystically or abstractly he is not.. he is a living force of will, the wall will stop him physically.. but it won't stop his will.. that is why when all his flesh was ripped off from him he was still able to move.. so in a way he will pass through it in that form.. probably by using the cyttorak but he is not breaking solid one fook thick adamantium.. its just too hard and too dense..

Adamantium is destructible by extreme physically force.. everything is... same is true for juggernaut.. he can be stopped and damaged..even hulk eventually has a limit.. the problem is there is nothing available to stop him by conventional means because the force required to stop him is not greater than the physically/mystical force that moves him.

i am not really sure if cyttorak is imprisoned by the adamantium shell he can break out of it with just strength alone.. he will just teleport or use other magical means. there are some things that are almost beyond physical force and require other means to manipulate..

I doubt it would stop his forward movement. Whatever weakness the wall has would be exploited eventually.

what are true adamantiums weakneses?

Originally posted by wolverex84
Adamantium is destructible by extreme physically force.. everything is... same is true for juggernaut.. he can be stopped and damaged..even hulk eventually has a limit.. the problem is there is nothing available to stop him by conventional means because the force required to stop him is not greater than the physically/mystical force that moves him.

Originally posted by wolverex84

i am not really sure if cyttorak is imprisoned by the adamantium shell he can break out of it with just strength alone.. he will just teleport or use other magical means. there are some things that are almost beyond physical force and require other means to manipulate..

Whatever weakness it has has yet to be determined. Juggernaut has never been stopped physically like this so I don't see how the wall can do it.

Hulk stopped him once but I dont remember if this was classic Jug or Jug without gem

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
so cyttorak cant amp his strenght to high enough level? (like Thanos did with caps shield)

😐

Thanos had IG then.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
😐

Thanos had IG then.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
what are true adamantiums weakneses?

well thats the thing adamantium IS conventional 😕 (its alloy of iron & stuff)

so cyttorak cant amp his strenght to high enough level? (like Thanos did with caps shield)

no adamantium is not.. just because it is made from convention means doesnt make it conventional, it is above conventional that is why nothing can destroy it..only manipulate it... you said "iron+stuff"..lol.. the stuff is the unknown formula X that makes it unconventional.. if it was conventional than almost any class 100 character should be able to break it..

yes he can amp his strength to that level.. but caps shield is half an inch THICK..LOL.. vibranuim+iron+ unknow formula..., the wall we are talking about is a foot thick.. extremely hard and extremely dense.. it should even weigh more than 2000lbs..if it is that thick..

wolverine's skeleton is less than 1/2 an inch thick, yet it added 105lbs to his weight. how dense is that?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Whatever weakness it has has yet to be determined. Juggernaut has never been stopped physically like this so I don't see how the wall can do it.

What mountain?

Originally posted by Mindset
What mountain?

Originally posted by wolverex84
no adamantium is not.. just because it is made from convention means doesnt make it conventional

wolverine's skeleton is less than 1/2 an inch thick, yet it added 105lbs to his weight. how dense is that?

Originally posted by wolverex84
i think he is talking about the mountain that collapsed on him when he gain his powers

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
so they add enchantment to it? what kinda magic? 🤨
iirc theres nothing mystical about it

at least its not neutronium level 😛 (where 1 inch cube weighs more then a planet 😛)

the formula are unknown only to the government that has it, we know that it is derived from mixtures of iron/stuff mixed together, it is not mystical..or enhanced.. its nature is pure science.. what makes it so special is the extremely stable inter molecular structure that holds the bonds of the atom of adamantium together.. giving it its properties like...density, hardness, toughness.. stiffness and virtually indestructible..this debate is magic vs science..

yeah neutonium is ridiculously dense..lol

Originally posted by wolverex84
its nature is pure science..

btw I edited my post (about wolvies skeleton)

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
jug needs momentum so he need some space before he become unstoppable (if he cant move then he cant start to run 😉)

true..true

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
so it is conventional! maybe more complex & all that but still conventional 😛 ('not conventional' => 'mystical'😉

btw I edited my post (about wolvies skeleton)

Near-Unbreakable Flesh: Since Cage's skin cannot be lacerated by conventional materials, his superhuman durability is a hindurance if he suffers injuries that are too severe for him to heal on his own and require surgery, such as internal injuries. While his skin can be lacerated by a highly powerful medical laser and weapons composed of Adamantium, neither of these would be readily available or easily accessible.

this proves that it is not conventional.. because it is not ordinary by normal standards..