Who's stronger: Captain America or Wolverine?

Started by Battlehammer16 pages

Originally posted by I'm Bran
Then Cap was manipulating Wolverine into thinking he's manipulating Cap.
I respectfully disagree. Cap knows everything.
Are not. Also, when was this?

They did. You trust me with that information, and I'll trust you to trust me.


during there team up in world war 2.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
you mean when logan ahd the sword? I am pritty sure he was not berserker there.

I think he was going berserker (hence the red eyes) but it happened off panel, so I can't be sure. If he wasn't... then Cap has no dealings at all with Berserker Wolverine prior to the Werewolf incident.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
during there team up in world war 2.
Cable and Bishop?

so so far we have smarter people with more information lots more information the capt on wolverine thinking he berserker when he not.

we have wolverien clearly not acting like he berserker

we have him mind controlled which he shown to break out of when berserker

and all the capt side has capt think wolverine berserker...........ecpt capts never onces shown to have any sort of knowledge on berserker or how to tell when wolverine berserker.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I think he was going berserker (hence the red eyes) but it happened off panel, so I can't be sure. If he wasn't... then Cap has no dealings at all with Berserker Wolverine prior to the Werewolf incident.

I think that was from the damage he had taken, if he was berserker he would not have been cluching his wound. also his claws would have came out, even back then even though he did not know he had them when ever he went berserker they came out.

Originally posted by I'm Bran
Cable and Bishop?

I thought you were asking when wolverine manipulated capt.

it happen in uncanny x-men I believe when cable, wolverine and bishop were fighting apoc army of guys. cable like he not lsitening to you bishop he in one of his berserker rages, but Logan responses back no I aint I just don't want to talk to you guys or some such.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
I think that was from the damage he had taken, if he was berserker he would not have been cluching his wound. also his claws would have came out, even back then even though he did not know he had them when ever he went berserker they came out.

He was just about to go berserker thats why he was still holding his stomach.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He was just about to go berserker thats why he was still holding his stomach.

I don't think he was, becuases that be dangerous his little "niece" capt, the russian guy as well. seems unlikly he go into it, and his claws would have came out.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
I don't think he was, becuases that be dangerous his little "niece" capt, the russian guy as well. seems unlikly he go into it, and his claws would have came out.

Its not like he can fully control the onset of the rages. Wolverine hardly ever used his claws at this time chronologically, even when berserk.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
I thought you were asking when wolverine manipulated capt.

it happen in uncanny x-men I believe when cable, wolverine and bishop were fighting apoc army of guys. cable like he not lsitening to you bishop he in one of his berserker rages, but Logan responses back no I aint I just don't want to talk to you guys or some such.

Ah. So anyway, was he acting like he was in beserker?

Originally posted by I'm Bran
Ah. So anyway, was he acting like he was in beserker?

Nah, just killing fodder indiscriminately.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Its not like he can fully control the onset of the rages. Wolverine hardly ever used his claws at this time chronologically, even when berserk.

I mean we don't really see him go berserker back then at all and if he did go berserker wouldent he have gone after little black widow who shot him lol.

As sad as it is to say... according to what's known (I think) Wolverine is Above Peak Human Strength... and as much as I hate the notion... rogers is considered the Pinnacle of all human abilites... which mean's he's limited to not having anything that goes beyond the scope of human capability, thus he is not as strong.

Originally posted by I'm Bran
Ah. So anyway, was he acting like he was in beserker?

I mean we only saw one pannel, it speculation either way. I mean his eyes were red, but then again he was cluching a wound, claws were in ect.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
I mean we only saw one pannel, it speculation either way. I mean his eyes were red, but then again he was cluching a wound, claws were in ect.

Hes talking about the Cable / Bishop / Wolverine team up again.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Dude, I'm like the Watcher my opinion is way more valuable than Captain America's, especially on something he doesn't have a clue about. He saw Wolverine go berserker once circa WW2 or shortly after.

You think based on one experience Captain America has enough knowledge to decide that Wolverine is in berserker rage? Thats humorous. He should how ever have enough knowledge to realise Wolverine's WASN'T in berserker rage, since the brief experience he had with berserker Wolverine, Logan's eyes where blood shot red as they tend to be when he is berserker... which coincidental they weren't in the example we are discussing.

Berserker Wolverine is also pretty much immune to telepathic influence if he WAS berserker... he would no longer be mind controlled.

Well said, especially that last point. 😄

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Hes talking about the Cable / Bishop / Wolverine team up again.

oh.

This is a great thread, I just wish Battlehammer would spell check. You would be more credible if you did not constantly misspell your words. It makes you look like an 8 year old.

Originally posted by Washco
This is a great thread, I just wish Battlehammer would spell check. You would be more credible if you did not constantly misspell your words. It makes you look like an 8 year old.

this is how much I care 😐

Originally posted by Rhinoceros
If being berserk means that Wolverine is blinded by rage, how can he still continue to develop tactics and such? I recall Wolverine himself saying that he himself doesn't know his next move when he's bersek'd, true?

Anyone?