Who's stronger: Captain America or Wolverine?

Originally posted by Daredevil1
How do you know Cap isn't qualified to know about the berserker rage. That fact that he mentions it qualifies. You don't qualify Cap/story does.

Bottom line is Cap/Story>>>then your opinion.

No it doesent all it means is he heard of his famous berserker rage, not that he can tell when he in it. a lot of people have assumed Logan was berserker when he was not including people more informed about wolverine then capt such as bishop and cable.

No actually. It your opinion that capt was correct, it not fact. Capt assumed he was berserker, but has little to no knowledge of Logan while berserker. So I quess based on your opinion wolverine can beat Iron man, pym and a lot of shield agents at the same time....................

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Becauses he never seen it, study it ect.

He's never seen it, study it etc.

And you know this how? Do you have any proof for this since now you make another claim.

First you claim its not berzerker rage yet you show no proof and yet Logan doesn't even talk during there fight. Second he was clearly talking while he was trapped in a cell and still under the mind spell.
Third now you claim Cap's never seen it or studied it. Lets see some proof.

Because right now Cap remarks/story>>>>then your words.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
He's never seen it, study it etc.

And you know this how? Do you have any proof for this since now you make another claim.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
First you claim its not berzerker rage yet you show no proof and yet Logan doesn't even talk during there fight.

That does not help prove your point at all.........Logan can talk while berserker..........and he quite bright while berserker.........Logan acting like a mindless idiot unable to speak actually hinders your arguement..........

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Second he was clearly talking while he was trapped in a cell and still under the mind spell.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Third now you claim Cap's never seen it or studied it. Lets see some proof.

Because right now Cap remarks/story>>>>then your words.

reall so Logan>>>>iron, pym and shield agents then by your logic.

I also guess spiderman>>>>thor in strength based on your logic as well.

alo if both cable and bishop have incorrectly state that wolverine was in berserker when he was not..........and both have study the x-men all of them.........but capt who never study wolverine intensly nor seen wolverine in berserker like theses two........some how was right when they were wrong? oh and scot who also has vastly more knowledge of wolverine when berserker then capt thought logan was still berserker before when he was not. List goes on and on. People mistake him as being berserker a lot when he not.

All that and not one shed of proof from a book showing your claims. Thats what I thought.

Fact still remains Cap/story proof>>>>then your own words. And unless your supply story proof you don't have a leg to stand on. Never mind that would imply you a least have a leg. You don't even have that.

This is rather easy since I have book source.

If forum people know about it, then there's no way that Cap doesn't know about it.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
All that and not one shed of proof from a book showing your claims. Thats what I thought.

Fact still remains Cap/story proof>>>>then your own words. And unless your supply story proof you don't have a leg to stand on. Never mind that would imply you a least have a leg. You don't even have that.

This is rather easy since I have book source.

ecpt you have zero evidences that capt has any authority to make such a claim and to believe it fact.

you have zero evdiences that capt has study berserker wolverine.

you have zero evdiences that he even seen berserker wolverine prior.

all you have is a statement made by a persoan who has no authority to make such claims.

so I guess wolverine>>>Iron Man, pym, hield agents

oh and I guess wolverine more skilled then capt as well and that one of his girls friend are as well

oh and guess you beliebve spiderman>>>Thor in strength too.

I mean they were all stated, so they must be true.

pleases you have zero evdiences, you have capt making a claim about something he does not know.

want me to provide evdiences I people who have vastly more knowledge on wolverine making such claims only to be wrong?

Originally posted by I'm Bran
If forum people know about it, then there's no way that Cap doesn't know about it.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
what? the entire forum 90% of them have almost no idea what berserker rage really is, they all have the same misconception which capt made.

And he's also Captain America. You're a 'Dwarf Fighter'.

Evidence is story....is Cap saying it......is the way Logan is acting.

This is greater then your words...... your opinions. Put your words....your opinon's on a story of marvel comic that either retcons the story or someone saying Cap is wrong, then get back to me.

But until then you got "nothing".

Originally posted by I'm Bran
Cap is smarter than forum folk.
He's also got the Avengers files to tell him random stuff.

And he's also Captain America. You're a 'Dwarf Fighter'.

capt got completely manipulated by wolverine with out even realizing it. Capt smart, but he does not know everything. Bpoth cable and bishop are as smart if not smarter with more information on wolverine and both made the mistake of saying he was berserker when he was not.

also im not even sure the aveneger had a file prior to wolverine jioning...........I mean capt new almost nothing about him...........and they had worked before to gather.

Those two are not Cap. They made the mistake. Prove Cap made the mistake.

Until then I got the story....and you got your word. Evidence is on my side no matter how you twist it.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
lol

capt got completely manipulated by wolverine with out even realizing it. Capt smart, but he does not know everything. Bpoth cable and bishop are as smart if not smarter with more information on wolverine and both made the mistake of saying he was berserker when he was not.

also im not even sure the aveneger had a file prior to wolverine jioning...........I mean capt new almost nothing about him...........and they had worked before to gather.

They did. You trust me with that information, and I'll trust you to trust me.

simple:

wolverine: according to stats

cap: according to feats

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Evidence is story....is Cap saying it......is the way Logan is acting.

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Originally posted by Daredevil1
his is greater then your words...... your opinions. Put your words....your opinon's on a story of marvel comic that either retcons the story or someone saying Cap is wrong, then get back to me.

But until then you got "nothing".

actaully you have nothing. Ypou have capt making an incorrect statement about soemthing he knows nothing about.

I can provide people who are smarter then capt, have seen berserker rage and have far more information one wolverine saying wolverine berserker when he not.

Also you must think spiderman stronger then thor then. or that sentry beat galactus. pleases characters make incorrect statements all the time.

If you can not provide evidences that capt had study berserker wolverine then there no reason to take his word on it when wolverine was not acting like he was berserker, Logan pritty much impossiable to mind controll while berserker ect.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
How do you know Cap isn't qualified to know about the berserker rage. That fact that he mentions it qualifies. You don't qualify, Cap/story does.

Bottom line is Cap/Story>>>then your opinion.

Dude, I'm like the Watcher my opinion is way more valuable than Captain America's, especially on something he doesn't have a clue about. He saw Wolverine go berserker once circa WW2 or shortly after.

You think based on one experience Captain America has enough knowledge to decide that Wolverine is in berserker rage? Thats humorous. He should how ever have enough knowledge to realise Wolverine's WASN'T in berserker rage, since the brief experience he had with berserker Wolverine, Logan's eyes where blood shot red as they tend to be when he is berserker... which coincidental they weren't in the example we are discussing.

Berserker Wolverine is also pretty much immune to telepathic influence if he WAS berserker... he would no longer be mind controlled.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Those two are not Cap. They made the mistake. Prove Cap made the mistake.

Until then I got the story....and you got your word. Evidence is on my side no matter how you twist it.

so actaully there really more evdiences against you.

oh and like I said which you keep ignoring by your logic spidermsn stronger then thor.

Originally posted by namorsubby
simple:

wolverine: according to stats

cap: according to feats

Only... Wolverine has better strength feats also. 😉

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Dude, I'm like the Watcher my opinion is way more valuable than Captain America's, especially on something he doesn't have a clue about. He saw Wolverine go berserker once circa WW2 or shortly after.

You think based on one experience Captain America has enough knowledge to decide that Wolverine is in berserker rage? Thats humorous. He should how ever have enough knowledge to realise Wolverine's WASN'T in berserker rage, since the brief experience he had with berserker Wolverine, Logan's eyes where blood shot red as they tend to be when he is berserker... which coincidental they weren't in the example we are discussing.