Wolverine vs. Abomination

Originally posted by Comicbook_kid
What gets me about Wolverine fans is the fact they think that just because Wolverine's claws are capable of cutting through anything doesn't mean he has the strength to cut through anything. The Abomination is just as highly resistant to injury and durable as the Hulk. Sure his healing ability isn't as good as Hulk's, but by the time Wolverine could do any real damage to him, Abomination would grab Wolvie and make a bloody smear out of him. No, he wouldn't be able to kill Logan, but he could definitely take him out of the fight before Wolvie could take him out. Although it's not easy to do, Wolverine can be knocked out if hit hard enough...and the Abomination is plenty strong enough to knock Logan out.

No, Wolverine fans think that Wolverine can cut characters like Abomination and the Hulk because... well... you know... he has... easily... about a million times. You're opinion on the matter is inconsequential. You can't argue against a fact, the sky is blue no matter how much you may want it to be red, and Wolverine would cut through abomination like a exacto-knife on a sheet of tracing paper.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Regardless of who beats who, that fight was just plain ridiculous. Abomination took more damage from Wolverine's punches than he did from the Hulk's.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
No, Wolverine fans think that Wolverine can cut characters like Abomination and the Hulk because... well... you know... he has... easily... about a million times. You're opinion on the matter is inconsequential. You can't argue against a fact, the sky is blue no matter how much you may want it to be red, and Wolverine would cut through abomination like a exacto-knife on a sheet of tracing paper.

dude not the sharpest tool in the tool shed thats for sure

Originally posted by Battlehammer
lol were tlaking about the same guy who gave examples of abom going toe to toe with guys wolverine himself has gone toe to toe against as evdiences for why wolverine can't beat him lol.

dude not the sharpest tool in the tool shed thats for sure

May not be the "sharpest tool in the shed" as you put it, but at least I know how to spell, have adequate grammar skills, and have basic knowledge of proper use of punctuation...all of which you lack it seems. Go back to elementary school and re-take Spelling and basic English, and then you can call someone else dumb. Anyway...

No, Wolverine has never faced down against the likes of Thor, Wonder Man, and She-Hulk like the Abomination has...at least to my knowledge he hasn't; and I've been reading comics for a long time. The ONLY character I mentioned that has faced both Abomination and Wolverine is the Hulk...whom of which has beaten Logan out of most of their battles that I've seen. Also, I've seen the Hulk get his ass handed to him by the Abomination quite a few times. So, therefore it stands to reason that since the Hulk has beaten Wolverine, and the Abomination has beaten the Hulk, it's logical that the Abomination could, should, and WOULD defeat Logan. I realize A-B-C logic doesn't always apply to all matches, but I feel it applies nicely here.

I'm just saying that more often than not, Abomination logically SHOULD be able to beat Wolverine more than Wolverine SHOULD be able to beat Abomination. I see the Abomination having more ways to put down Logan than Logan putting down Abomination.

Originally posted by Comicbook_kid
May not be the "sharpest tool in the shed" as you put it, but at least I know how to spell, have adequate grammar skills, and have basic knowledge of proper use of punctuation...all of which you lack it seems. Go back to elementary school and re-take Spelling and basic English, and then you can call someone else dumb. Anyway...

also I chioces not to type well, or uses correct spelling, becuases I don't care enough. Also spell nor grammar show intelligences.

Originally posted by Comicbook_kid
No, Wolverine has never faced down against the likes of Thor, Wonder Man, and She-Hulk like the Abomination has at some point...at least to my knowledge he hasn't; and I've been reading comics for a long time. The ONLY character I mentioned that has faced both Abomination and Logan is the Hulk...whom of which has beaten Logan out of most of their battles that I've seen.

No Logan only fought Hulk, Namor, Rough-houses, Tiger shark ect.

actaully msot all there fights have been draws.........and They actually tied in wins I believe......so I am not sure what youve been reading.

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Originally posted by Comicbook_kid
'm just saying that more often than not, Abomination logically SHOULD be able to beat Wolverine more than Wolverine SHOULD be able to beat Abomination. I see the Abomination having more ways to put down Logan than Logan putting down Abomination.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
never said you were dumb said you werent the smartest person there a differences.

also I chioces not to type well, or uses correct spelling, becuases I don't care enough. Also spell nor grammar show intelligences.

No Logan only fought Hulk, Namor, Rough-houses, Tiger shark ect.

actaully msot all there fights have been draws.........and They actually tied in wins I believe......so I am not sure what youve been reading.

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actaully logically that does not make senses. Logan can cut libs off slash artieries, stabb the heart, head ect......all abom can really do is punch him.

Can Logan cut off Abomination's arms, legs, head, etc...? Yeah, maybe if the Abomination just stood there and let him slash away over and over and over...which he's not going to give him the chance to do.

Abomination's hide is just as tough as Hulk's and Logan's never been able to cut any of Hulk's limbs off...why would he be able to cut off any of Abomination's? It would be like if I tried to cut your legs or arms off with a Swiss army knife. Yeah, I could probably do it, but it's going to take me a VERY long time and a HELL of a lot of force...and you're not going to give me the chance in a fight. I could have the sharpest Swiss army knife in the world...doesn't matter. It's still going to take A LOT of time and A LOT of strength to cut through someone's limbs with it. Same thing here.

Abomination is going to grab him by the face and slam him through the concrete, sonic-clap him until his eardrums explode, and while Logan's shrieking in pain for a moment, Abomination's going to grab him by the leg with one hand and grab him by the arms with the other and tear him in half...or just pound him with hay-makers that would leave the Hulk cryin' for his mommy.

And if that doesn't work, Abomination can always just throw him into the next state.

Originally posted by Comicbook_kid
Can Logan cut off Abomination's arms, legs, head, etc...? Yeah, maybe if the Abomination just stood there and let him slash away over and over and over...which he's not going to give him the chance to do.

Abomination's hide is just as tough as Hulk's and Logan's never been able to cut any of his limbs off...why would he be able to cut off any of Abomination's? It would be like if I tried to cut your legs or arms off with a swiss army knife. Yeah, I could probably do it, but it's going to take me a hell of a long time and a hell of a lot of force...and you're not going to give me the chance in a fight. I could have the sharpest Swiss army knife in the world...doesn't matter. It's still going to take time and a lot of strength to cut through someone's limbs with it.

Abomination is going to grab him by the face and slam him through the concrete, sonic-clap him until his eardrums explode, and while Logan's shrieking in pain for a moment, Abomination's going to grab him by the leg with one hand and grab him by the arms with the other and tear him in half...or just pound him with hay-makers that would leave the Hulk cryin' for his mommy.

And if that doesn't work, Abomination can always just throw him into the next state.

you really uses far to many words.

Logan claws arnt just normal blades. It does not depend on strength. They literally can cut through anything asside from other unbreakable object or beings it seems. Logan would have no toruble stabb compeltely into abomination. cutting his limbs could happen, it just hard due to there size not really durbaility.

How is abomination going to grap some one by the face who faster, mroe agile, betetr reflexes, vastly superior fighter?

thunder clap won't work, shown repeatedly not to bother wolverine, the damage heals so as it done, so try again

It DOES depend on strength...AND durability AND size. Yes his blades CAN cut through anything...he just doesn't always have the strength to push his blades through it to cut it. Same here.

Hulk has been shown to be able to grab Logan in a fight. Why wouldn't the Abomination be able to? Really all the Abomination needs is one grab to put Logan down for awhile. He might not be able to break his skeleton, but he could pull the sockets of his joints out of place and pull his legs and arms off and tear his torso in half.

The sonic thunder-clap does work. It worked against Logan in Hulk #340 when the Hulk did it. Sure the damage to his ear will heal quickly, but the Abomination only needs a second or two to grab Logan and make a bloody mess out of him.

Originally posted by Comicbook_kid
It DOES depend on strength...AND durability AND size. Yes his blades CAN cut through anything...he just doesn't always have the strength to push his blades through it to cut it. Same here.

Originally posted by Comicbook_kid
Hulk has been shown to be able to grab Logan in a fight. Why wouldn't the Abomination be able to? Really all the Abomination needs is one grab to put Logan down for awhile. He might not be able to break his skeleton, but he could pull the sockets of his joints out of place and pull his legs and arms off and tear his torso in half.

First Hulk faster then abomination and second he takes crap load of damage to due so, damage abom aint taking

actually his bones are all connected so no that can't work, sabertooth, Ba'al ect have tried and failed.

Originally posted by Comicbook_kid
The sonic thunder-clap does work. It worked against Logan in Hulk #340 when the Hulk did it. Sure the damage to his ear will heal quickly, but the Abomination only needs a second or two to grab Logan and make a bloody mess out of him.

and that the only time it has shown to effect him. want me to post 2 different times were he was shown complete uneffected by the sonic attack?

so no it won't work.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
No they don't there as thin as molicules or some shit. They actaulyl don't depend on his strength which is why he can cut through msot anything like butter such as titanium.

Originally posted by Mindset
Then why wasn't he able to pierce WWH skin, but adamantium rounds shot from a helicopter could?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
wtf are you talking about? He stabbed WWH repeatedly.............

Originally posted by Battlehammer
No they don't there as thin as molicules or some shit. They actaulyl don't depend on his strength which is why he can cut through msot anything like butter such as titanium.

First Hulk faster then abomination and second he takes crap load of damage to due so, damage abom aint taking

actually his bones are all connected so no that can't work, sabertooth, Ba'al ect have tried and failed.

Yes and yet hulk who faster then abomination still could not hit him before he recovered.

and that the only time it has shown to effect him. want me to post 2 different times were he was shown complete uneffected by the sonic attack?

so no it won't work.

Well then that's just bad writing on the writer's part. Why would the sonic-clap affect him one issue and not another? If it hurt him when the Hulk did it, it stands to reason it would hurt him when the Abomination would do it.

In your two other references where it was shown NOT to affect him, who was the one doing the sonic-clap and what issues were they in?

Originally posted by Mindset
Maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but I could swear Wolverine wasn't able to cut him.

Originally posted by Comicbook_kid
Well then that's just bad writing on the writer's part. Why would the sonic-clap affect him one issue and not another? If it hurt him when the Hulk did it, it stands to reason it would hurt him when the Abomination would do it.

In your two other references where it was shown NOT to affect him, who was the one doing the sonic-clap and what issues were they in?

x-men comic and it was the Hulk

a frantasic four x-men cross over and it was the thing.

No if anything it be bad writting that it did effected him when it shown not to the majority of the time.

also sicnes that time he had an upgrade to his healing factor.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
nope he stabbed him clearly repeatedly.........as did x-23

Originally posted by Mindset
Ok, yea you're right, he was able to cut him, but he states WWH was becoming harder to cut

Originally posted by Battlehammer
No idea what he was talking about, maybe more musle so he ahd to cut deeper. Never really understood that statement.

I guess it requires some strength, but it not like a normal knife his claws are like moliculer sharp or ssome crap which i why it so easy for him to cut everything, though I guess there a point were strength would come into it.

Originally posted by Mindset
Well he said his skin was harder to cut so he went for his eyes.