Originally posted by dadudemon
Common knowledge, dude. 😬
1) Go **** yourself.
2) The way he worded it, it seemed Israel put up a two year blockage for no other reason than shits and giggles and it was a constant, which seems odd, since they would have all starved in two years. It was done because of repeated rocket attacks into southern Israel and it wasn't a constant blockage, Israel let in medical supplies and food.
Originally posted by Robtard
Do you have some proof of this Iraeli blocking of food/suppplies for two years?Edit: I did a quick search myself, seems not only did Israel initially start the blockage because of Hamas rocket attacks, but they opened it up in January '08.
Opened it up all the way to make 1.5 million people better off???
Do you listen to FOX, CNN, or MSNBC? You won't find the hourglass babes there talking about Israel's blockade.
Try watching Al-Jazeera for one look at the news. There are tons of alternative media both conservative and liberal that make mention and criticism of Israel's blockade.
Here's a small sampling:
Originally posted by Adam Argo
Opened it up all the way to make 1.5 million people better off???Do you listen to FOX, CNN, or MSNBC? You won't find the hourglass babes there talking about Israel's blockade.
Try watching Al-Jazeera for one look at the news. There are tons of alternative media both conservative and liberal that make mention and criticism of Israel's blockade.
the blockade has been on and off for the entire length of Israeli occupation of Gaza. When Hamas and Fatah were fighting, they had the borders closed, they did it after the Hajj in previous years
however, the blockade does come down from time to time.
have they done what you want them to do, no, certainly not. However, given that you are willing to dismiss acts of violence against innocent people simply because there are other people making large acts of violence against innocent people seems to illuminate the bias you would have while presenting this info (Its like you are your own hourglass babe!)
Originally posted by Adam Argo
Opened it up all the way to make 1.5 million people better off???Do you listen to FOX, CNN, or MSNBC? You won't find the hourglass babes there talking about Israel's blockade.
Try watching Al-Jazeera for one look at the news. There are tons of alternative media both conservative and liberal that make mention and criticism of Israel's blockade.
If those rockets stopped, Israel wouldn't have a cause to block. Maybe the Palestinians shouldn't have voted in Hamas, you think? Hamas isn't helping the Palestinian people, they're using them.
CNN & MSN sometimes, I prefer the BBC and the odd independant/smaller news agency I find online. You?
Yeah, because Al-Jazeera isn't biased against Israel. They've shown pallywood media at times.
I am aware of Israel's blocking of Gaza, as a means to weaken Hamas, it's a common strategy during wartime. Your wording made it seem something entirely different, like Israel blocked off all supplies for a two year constant, something they didn't do.
Originally posted by Robtard
1) Go **** yourself.2) The way he worded it, it seemed Israel put up a two year blockage for no other reason than shits and giggles and it was a constant, which seems odd, since they would have all starved in two years. It was done because of repeated rocket attacks into southern Israel and it wasn't a constant blockage, Israel let in medical supplies and food.
😆 Point taken. That was rude of me to put it that way. I could have linked you something, but...again...I'm at work.
2. Fair enough...
Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, because Al-Jazeera isn't biased against Israel. They've shown pallywood media at times.
Al Jazeera is my favorite news agency on the planet, and I would honestly say on most issues they do have VERY fair and balanced coverage.
Yet, I agree 10 000% with this.
Mosaic news is probably the best and most all encompassing review of news from the Middle East, and always contains views from the Israeli news organizations.
I am not willing to defend a country that abuses its precious priviledges and grants it gets from the United States. I have much more sympathy to the Arab world than I ever have for the Jews. The Jews need a country and the Arabs need a country. Both sides square their religion off of each other, and many civilians pay for the process.
The ratio of deaths has always and will always be skewed with Israel taking the least damage as long as America is there to "save the day".
Since 1948, there has been nonstop bloodshed in a situation called the Nabak-- a Nazi-style holocaust not on a par of obliterating all at once like in Germany but a slow painful death of driving out all the Palestinians.
Everybody is quick to rush to Israel's support. Point blank bluntly, none of their civilians should perish...but they don't need too much sympathy either.
Originally posted by Adam Argo
Everybody is quick to rush to Israel's support. Point blank bluntly, none of their civilians should perish...but they don't need too much sympathy either.
you are saying Israeli civilians, as opposed to the government or defense forces, are unworthy of your sympathy? Even if a rocket from Palestine kills them?
The life of an innocent Arab, to you, has more value than the life of an innocent Israeli?
EDIT: also, I would argue your presentation of Israeli history. For instance, they had little if any American help during the 7 days war.
Originally posted by inimalistWell, the Internet made it very easy to get different news outlets, and, at least imo, I don't feel like CNN and Al Jazeera (and a third German news organization I check) differ that greatly in their RSS feeds. I guess they focus on different things, at times, but the major News are covered similarly and in what seems a pretty unbiased manner.
Al Jazeera is my favorite news agency on the planet, and I would honestly say on most issues they do have VERY fair and balanced coverage.Yet, I agree 10 000% with this.
Mosaic news is probably the best and most all encompassing review of news from the Middle East, and always contains views from the Israeli news organizations.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, the Internet made it very easy to get different news outlets, and, at least imo, I don't feel like CNN and Al Jazeera (and a third German news organization I check) differ that greatly in their RSS feeds. I guess they focus on different things, at times, but the major News are covered similarly and in what seems a pretty unbiased manner.
I get most of my news off of the Al Jazeera youtube page. I guess I don't really compare it to what is available on CNN, so you could totally be right. EDIT: most of my news from Al Jazeera off of the Al Jazeera youtube page.
The Somali pirates thing, I would point to however, as being way better covered by Al Jazeera, though it might not be fair, given it was in their backyard.
Originally posted by inimalist
I get most of my news off of the Al Jazeera youtube page. I guess I don't really compare it to what is available on CNN, so you could totally be right. EDIT: most of my news from Al Jazeera off of the Al Jazeera youtube page.The Somali pirates thing, I would point to however, as being way better covered by Al Jazeera, though it might not be fair, given it was in their backyard.
Oh, yes, you get much more News from their region than from European or American sources, but as you said, it is to be expected.
Originally posted by inimalist
Al Jazeera is my favorite news agency on the planet, and I would honestly say on most issues they do have VERY fair and balanced coverage.Yet, I agree 10 000% with this.
Mosaic news is probably the best and most all encompassing review of news from the Middle East, and always contains views from the Israeli news organizations.
All news is biased in regards to some side or issue; that doesn't make the entire news agency shit. Being aware of their particular bias is good though.
E.G. I wouldn't just take the word of Fox news in regards to a Republican scandal, as I know they lean right and they'll sugar-coat in that regards.