It might not in a army on army sense, but massive military against civvy populous...? Thats a bit different, isnt it?
Its like Dennis Weaver in Duel...
His crime was to bib his horn at that truck driver.
Was the truck driver then entitled to spend the next few days trying to be driving Dennis Weaver off the road/kill him...?
'Cause some might say that that was a disproportionate response.
Great news, cease-fires have been announced all across the board. We can now go back to the quieter, more comfortable sort of Israeli oppression.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
You cannot assault someone, and then cry foul when it is you who gets the worse end of the stick.
Re: Israeli Bombing raids, over the top?
Originally posted by Bicnarok
NEWS:-Israeli air strikes kill more than 200 Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, medics say, as Israel targets Hamas militants with the heaviest raids on Gaza for decades.
I don't sympathize with Muslims (or any sort of brown people), but I also don't follow the idea that the Jews are God's chosen people. They're nothing but foreign invaders in the Arab lands, just as they (and the Arabs) are in any other lands...just because the Jews owned it over 3,000 years ago doesn't mean they do today. The Jews have been committing atrocities for about 60 years now...the Arabs are just defending themselves and their own land. I don't follow the belief that disagreeing with the Jews or any horrible thing they do makes you an anti-Semite, nor that being an anti-Semite is somehow a crime. If speaking truthfully without defiling my words with egalitarian "tolerance" makes me an anti-Semite, then fine. I won't mind if anyone wants to call me as such.
Re: Re: Israeli Bombing raids, over the top?
Did you clap yourself on the back for your assumed bravery?
You also committed a foul, you said you don't sympathize with Muslims or brown people, yet you do sympathize with the Muslim/brown people in Gaza with regards to your claims of invading Jews. Be best to keep your racism in order.
If you don't mind my asking, why do you think Israel and the Zionist (I know a lot of people don't like that word and associate it with racism and nationalism but it is the term that accurately describes the idea or the philosophy behind the state of Israel) cause is morally right?
EDIT: That was aimed at Robtard but anyone else that supports Israel can answer it.
Originally posted by backdoorman
If you don't mind my asking, why do you think Israel and the Zionist (I know a lot of people don't like that word and associate it with racism and nationalism but it is the term that accurately describes the idea or the philosophy behind the state of Israel) cause is morally right?EDIT: That was aimed at Robtard but anyone else that supports Israel can answer it.
Morally right? Is Hamas morally right to send rockets into Israel? There is no morality in this conflict.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Morally right? Is Hamas morally right to send rockets into Israel? There is no morality in this conflict.
Originally posted by backdoorman
If you don't mind my asking, why do you think Israel and the Zionist (I know a lot of people don't like that word and associate it with racism and nationalism but it is the term that accurately describes the idea or the philosophy behind the state of Israel) cause is morally right?EDIT: That was aimed at Robtard but anyone else that supports Israel can answer it.
Morals are irrelevant, Israel is in no way without fault in these battles, they have done wrong themselves; I never claimed they were saints.
In this particular fight, they were attacked first yet again and it's been told and re-told that they have made efforts to have peace with the Palestinians while Hamas simply wants them gone/dead and yet another Islamic state put in place.
Edit: If you do want to bring in morals in the Israel/Palestine conflict, Israel could wipe them off the map in a matter of days; they haven't and they won't, despite ongoing rocket and suicide bomb attacks. Hamas and others have said they intend to wipe Israel off the map and they would if they so had the means. You can judge which side is more "moral"?
The Israeli bombing raids stem from Hamas's ruling 1.5 million people starving and decaying due to Israel's blockade of the Gaza Strip for over two years. Hamas secretly gets low-low-grade weapons that barely kill any of its opposition through tunnels dug from Gaza to Egypt.
Israel gets all its weapons from the United States as well as a shitload of money and support from New York and Washington. The latest American rocket GEB-09 missile, though flawed in its own right, is capable of creating massive collateral damage (read: women and children). Israel used the American November elections to end the ceasefire with Hamas, while the majority of Americans were distracted by the dazzling fireworks show of Obama, all the while building up an offensive plan of carpet bombing various areas of Gaza.
The people of Gaza have been so weakened and malnourished because of Israel's blockade; the Jews allowing all of ten or twenty trucks of food and water a day to feed and nourish over 1.5 million people is ridiculous.
The leaders of Hamas are now resulting to desperate measures, since they know that no one will come to their aid. The Bush cabinet gave them a cold sneer and said, "**** you" as audibly as they could. The incoming Obama administration includes such Israel nob-polishers as Rahm Emanuel, Hillary Clinton, and Timothy Geithner. Obama himself genuflected to AIPAC previously and betrayed his prior speeches on a fair and just land occupied by the two powers of Palestine and Israel. Britain and France are appalled to be sure at the violence, but fully back up Israel's safety as they have done for over sixty years. Russia and China couldn't give a damn; they're waiting for an opportunity where the United States can show weakness.
So, Hamas is forced to defend itself and to commit immoral acts as killing only 13 jews while nearly 1400 of their own die on their soil, and they are forced to watch their schools and hospitals exploded from a US-supplied F16 carrying US-supplied bombs.
Where's the morality here?