The Locust vs. The Chimera

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Originally posted by Weasel_Nate_88
I think you missed the point 😕

Possibly, that conversation was going off topic.

Originally posted by Weasel_Nate_88
Is there a high quantity of riftworms? because I recall them having a extremely low quantity of riftworm

The number of Riftworms was never stated, and during the Lambent/Locust wars we can assume that the number was low. But the OP states that this battle is taking place on the locust homeworld, only against the Locust. So this means that the Locust have full control of the planet and have dug in and now have numbers possibly in the billions rather than whatever low number they had near the end of the war. Therefore we can have many Riftworms rather than being limited by human and lambent forces.

Assuming the Locust have access to all weaponry in the entire Gears series, included within their arsenal would be the Hammer of Dawn. There goes your spires, leviathans, whatever. Also, considering this war will likely go on for some time, I'm not sure how well the Chimera will handle Sera's environment and harsh climate. Ever heard of RAZOR HAIL? Neither have the Chimera. Within the Locust Horde are also krill. Unless the Chimera came to Sera already aware of them (doubtful), they're numbers will rapidly deplete as night falls.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
The number of Riftworms was never stated, and during the Lambent/Locust wars we can assume that the number was low. But the OP states that this battle is taking place on the locust homeworld, only against the Locust. So this means that the Locust have full control of the planet and have dug in and now have numbers possibly in the billions rather than whatever low number they had near the end of the war. Therefore we can have many Riftworms rather than being limited by human and lambent forces.
On the wiki it said there is at least 3 so shouldn't the quantity be around 10? mabye even less. Chimera however, should have hundreds or thousands of leviathans 😉

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Assuming the Locust have access to all weaponry in the entire Gears series, included within their arsenal would be the Hammer of Dawn. There goes your spires, leviathans, whatever. Also, considering this war will likely go on for some time, I'm not sure how well the Chimera will handle Sera's environment and harsh climate. Ever heard of RAZOR HAIL? Neither have the Chimera. Within the Locust Horde are also krill. Unless the Chimera came to Sera already aware of them (doubtful), they're numbers will rapidly deplete as night fa lls.
Ever heard of shelters? 😄

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Assuming the Locust have access to all weaponry in the entire Gears series, included within their arsenal would be the Hammer of Dawn. There goes your spires, leviathans, whatever. Also, considering this war will likely go on for some time, I'm not sure how well the Chimera will handle Sera's environment and harsh climate. Ever heard of RAZOR HAIL? Neither have the Chimera. Within the Locust Horde are also krill. Unless the Chimera came to Sera already aware of them (doubtful), they're numbers will rapidly deplete as night falls.
Wait, how does that relate to my reply on your other comment? you left it unanswered.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
Well, yes the Chimera are more intelligent than the humans from Resistance but compared to other versions of people (like the ones from mass effect or gears) they are not. As I stated, the Locust have the advantage of Imulsion on their behalf, the Chimera don't have a counter to that. Only one man in the Gears universe was able to end the imulsion and he died doing it. The Chimera are not adapted to the planet unlike the Locust and will succumb several times faster than the local fauna. This is the Chimera's war to lose.
Just create bomb as strong as , if not stronger than the lightmass bomb

I could be wrong but last time I played gears hammer of dawn was just a huge laser in space, if so why can't the chimera fly up in space and destroy it?

Originally posted by Weasel_Nate_88
On the wiki it said there is at least 3 so shouldn't the quantity be around 10? mabye even less. Chimera however, should have hundreds or thousands of leviathans 😉

We've been over this already. A Leviathan is NOT going to kill a Riftworm. Especially not in the manner you previously suggested. If you want to know how easy that will be for them, board a moving train and try to tear your way through it. If it's as simple as you suggest, you should have no problem. 😄

Originally posted by Weasel_Nate_88
Ever heard of shelters? 😄

For their sake, I hope THEY have. 😄

Originally posted by Weasel_Nate_88
Wait, how does that relate to my reply on your other comment? you left it unanswered.

It was just another point I wanted to make. Anyways, which comment? I'll gladly answer your question.

Originally posted by Weasel_Nate_88
I could be wrong but last time I played gears hammer of dawn was just a huge laser in space, if so why can't the chimera fly up in space and destroy it?

There are numerous Hammers that orbit the globe. There could be any number of them in one place at any given time. This can actually be adjusted to coordinate strikes. Though the manner in which it is done is a little vague to me. Plus, a Hammer has never been brought down, so we can't automatically assume that to be easy. Knowing the COG, they were probably built to last.

Originally posted by Weasel_Nate_88
Just create bomb as strong as , if not stronger than the lightmass bomb

How much time do they plan on spending on THAT instead of fighting? This likely also implies that the Locust have used a lightmass against them. You see where I'm going with this?

Originally posted by Sacred 117
We've been over this already. A Leviathan is NOT going to kill a Riftworm. Especially not in the manner you previously suggested. If you want to know how easy that will be for them, board a moving train and try to tear your way through it. If it's as simple as you suggest, you should have no problem. 😄

For their sake, I hope THEY have. 😄

It was just another point I wanted to make. Anyways, which comment? I'll gladly answer your question.

There are numerous Hammers that orbit the globe. There could be any number of them in one place at any given time. This can actually be adjusted to coordinate strikes. Though the manner in which it is done is a little vague to me. Plus, a Hammer has never been brought down, so we can't automatically assume that to be easy. Knowing the COG, they were probably built to last.

There are way more leviathans than riftworms the worms would seriously outnumbered A hammer has never been brought down but then again, the locust have never fought the chimera.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
How much time do they plan on spending on THAT instead of fighting? This likely also implies that the Locust have used a lightmass against them. You see where I'm going with this?
Like I said once they see the first chimera burn to death being a intelligent race they will most likely return to their ships and they are smarter than humans so it won't be long until they get the bomb idea. The menials would be working on the bomb, leaving the much more beastly form of chimera to defend and fight.

Originally posted by Weasel_Nate_88
There are way more leviathans than riftworms the worms would seriously outnumbered A hammer has never been brought down but then again, the locust have never fought the chimera.

If you're outnumbered by something that doesn't know how to kill you, will it really make a difference?

That may be, but the Chimera have never encountered the Hammer. The Hammer is an entire system of WMDs, as I've already said. Yes, they could try to destroy one and run the same risk of being brought down by it/them. It's far more powerful than you give it credit for. It burned 90% of Sera in about a day. That's as much damage as the Chimera did to Earth... PERIOD.

Originally posted by Weasel_Nate_88
Like I said once they see the first chimera burn to death being a intelligent race they will most likely return to their ships and they are smarter than humans so it won't be long until they get the bomb idea. The menials would be working on the bomb, leaving the much more beastly form of chimera to defend and fight.

You're on two different subjects. My statement about Chimera burning to death implies freak accidents such as one (or several) falling into imulsion. As for the Lightmass, the Chimera aren't going to automatically know about it. They would first have to take a hit or two from it, retrieve one (or at least attempt to), then actually study it. All of that takes time. Time they don't have. If they just wanted to come up with something then it would take them even longer with no guarantee of effectiveness. Then again, their efforts would be counterproductive because the Locust have been bombed before, and it didn't work.

Originally posted by Weasel_Nate_88
On the wiki it said there is at least 3 so shouldn't the quantity be around 10? mabye even less. Chimera however, should have hundreds or thousands of leviathans 😉

Plenty of Leviathans to eat, plus the number is unknown. Leviathans fall to their death.

Originally posted by Weasel_Nate_88
Ever heard of shelters? 😄

Shelters are fine until a Corpser caves it in, killing everything in the room.

Originally posted by Weasel_Nate_88
Just create bomb as strong as , if not stronger than the lightmass bomb

It wasn't a bomb dude, it was a machine created by marcus's father. And like I said the lightmass bomb wasn't the one that wiped out the Locust. It didn't even drive them to desparation.

Originally posted by Weasel_Nate_88
I could be wrong but last time I played gears hammer of dawn was just a huge laser in space, if so why can't the chimera fly up in space and destroy it?

Cuz the reavers will just rocket the Chimera into the ground. Assuming of course the locust start off with that equipment, given they have control of the planet.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
If you're outnumbered by something that doesn't know how to kill you, will it really make a difference?

That may be, but the Chimera have never encountered the Hammer. The Hammer is an entire system of WMDs, as I've already said. Yes, they could try to destroy one and run the same risk of being brought down by it/them. It's far more powerful than you give it credit for. It burned 90% of Sera in about a day. That's as much damage as the Chimera did to Earth... PERIOD.

Thousands maybe even millions of leviathan would be hitting stepping on,jumping on, and kicking the riftworms thats gotta hurt. Im not trying to underrate the hammer but I do not see why It can be destroyed by BILLIONS of chimeran ships.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
You're on two different subjects. My statement about Chimera burning to death implies freak accidents such as one (or several) falling into imulsion. As for the Lightmass, the Chimera aren't going to automatically know about it. They would first have to take a hit or two from it, retrieve one (or at least attempt to), then actually study it. All of that takes time. Time they don't have. If they just wanted to come up with something then it would take them even longer with no guarantee of effectiveness. Then again, their efforts would be counterproductive because the Locust have been bombed before, and it didn't work.
Humans seemed to come up with it and had time to fight, chimera are more intelligent than humans and won't need to study as much, maybe not at all