The Locust vs. The Chimera

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Originally posted by COG Veteran
Plenty of Leviathans to eat, plus the number is unknown. Leviathans fall to their death.
If the worms have some magical huge beautiful stroke of luck and eat all the leviathan they will choke to death 😆

Originally posted by COG Veteran
It wasn't a bomb dude, it was a machine created by marcus's father. And like I said the lightmass bomb wasn't the one that wiped out the Locust. It didn't even drive them to desparation.
I did not mean it would destroy the locust I meant it can get rid the imulsion or whatever 🙂

Originally posted by COG Veteran
It wasn't a bomb dude, it was a machine created by marcus's father. And like I said the lightmass bomb wasn't the one that wiped out the Locust. It didn't even drive them to desparation.

Indeed. The Lightmass was powered by imulsion iirc. It also did nothing to the Locust as you said. I don't think Imulsion would be too easy to come by for the Chimera anyways. They would have to fight while trying to take and store enough and steal a lightmass prototype so they could build it. And if this is to be a long war the the Chimera are likely to be infected by the imulsion and that would be bad for the Chimera as it would likely split their ranks and cause them to fight each other as well as the Locust. Though if we are to remove the Imulsion then we also have to remove the possibility for the Chimera to build a Lightmass......

While the Chimera may have numbers they really don't have what it takes imo. They were fighting back in 51 and seemed to be having enough trouble fighting back then. They are fighting (in comparison) a VERY VERY technologically advanced species. In fact the Locust are even more technologically advanced then us lol. Also think about the physicality of them. Regular drones can stomp though heads with such ease that there isn't even much of a head left attached.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Indeed. The Lightmass was powered by imulsion iirc. It also did nothing to the Locust as you said. I don't think Imulsion would be too easy to come by for the Chimera anyways. They would have to fight while trying to take and store enough and steal a lightmass prototype so they could build it. And if this is to be a long war the the Chimera are likely to be infected by the imulsion and that would be bad for the Chimera as it would likely split their ranks and cause them to fight each other as well as the Locust. Though if we are to remove the Imulsion then we also have to remove the possibility for the Chimera to build a Lightmass......

While the Chimera may have numbers they really don't have what it takes imo. They were fighting back in 51 and seemed to be having enough trouble fighting back then. They are fighting (in comparison) a VERY VERY technologically advanced species. In fact the Locust are even more technologically advanced then us lol. Also think about the physicality of them. Regular drones can stomp though heads with such ease that there isn't even much of a head left attached.

THANK YOU! 🙂 This basically summed up just about every important factor we've discussed thus far. HOPEFULLY, that will make it a little harder to overlook.

Originally posted by Weasel_Nate_88
I did not mean it would destroy the locust I meant it can get rid the imulsion or whatever 🙂

The Lightmass didn't do that. Adam Fenix, essentially Sera's (NOT EARTH'S) best and brightest, was specifically suited for the task. He's the one who came up with a deterrent, and that still took him years at the cost of his own life.

You may be wondering why I keep comparing Earth and Sera. Simple; Sera is better in every way. When you talk about how much smarter Chimera are than humans, you have to know which humans you're talking about.

Originally posted by Weasel_Nate_88
Thousands maybe even millions of leviathan would be hitting stepping on,jumping on, and kicking the riftworms thats gotta hurt. Im not trying to underrate the hammer but I do not see why It can be destroyed by BILLIONS of chimeran ships.

You kinda ignore the fact that Riftworms don't sit on the surface, Leviathian will never see it coming...

Originally posted by Weasel_Nate_88
Humans seemed to come up with it and had time to fight, chimera are more intelligent than humans and won't need to study as much, maybe not at all

They'll never get the chance to study. Being exposed to Sera's air is probably enough to kill them. If any do try to escape the planet, Reavers gun' em down.

Originally posted by Weasel_Nate_88
If the worms have some magical huge beautiful stroke of luck and eat all the leviathan they will choke to death 😆

They're not gonna choke, they won't even need to eat the leviathan, I wasn't arguing that it could. You still haven't given any proof that leviathans can avoid the Riftworms or their traps.

Originally posted by Weasel_Nate_88
I did not mean it would destroy the locust I meant it can get rid the imulsion or whatever 🙂

How could the Chimera come up with a "bomb" to rid an ENTIRE planet of an almost never ending resource? They wouldn't, Locust over run them before any project gets off the ground.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
The Lightmass didn't do that. Adam Fenix, essentially Sera's (NOT EARTH'S) best and brightest, was specifically suited for the task. He's the one who came up with a deterrent, and that still took him years at the cost of his own life.

You may be wondering why I keep comparing Earth and Sera. Simple; Sera is better in every way. When you talk about how much smarter Chimera are than humans, you have to know which humans you're talking about.

Besides the humans far in the future chimera are more intelligent than most humans.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
How could the Chimera come up with a "bomb" to rid an ENTIRE planet of an almost never ending resource? They wouldn't, Locust over run them before any project gets off the ground.
Not really, if they were trying to create a bomb the menials can do it, leaving the much more beastly chimera to protect the base and go to war.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
You kinda ignore the fact that Riftworms don't sit on the surface, Leviathian will never see it coming...
Yeah and you kinda ignore the fact that the locust and riftworm would be outsmarted, outnumbered and will not be as equiped their only advantage is sera itself but chimer has destroyed BILLION of other planets im sure most of them did not go down easy.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
They're not gonna choke, they won't even need to eat the leviathan, I wasn't arguing that it could. You still haven't given any proof that leviathans can avoid the Riftworms or their traps.
So if a hundred levithans can choke a worm im sure unlimited leapers can. They can dig themselves and if there is rock surroundings the body as you said the leapers would attack anything ( in this case the mouth ) the riftworm would be struggling to swallow billions of leapers at once while much more are coming. LOL I guess even form of chimera can take out one of the most powerful locust huh? It won't need a levithan. XD 😂

Originally posted by Weasel_Nate_88
Besides the humans far in the future chimera are more intelligent than most humans.

As said, MOST humans don't matter.

Originally posted by Weasel_Nate_88
Not really, if they were trying to create a bomb the menials can do it, leaving the much more beastly chimera to protect the base and go to war.

You've said this already, and it's given us nothing.

Originally posted by Weasel_Nate_88
Yeah and you kinda ignore the fact that the locust and riftworm would be outsmarted, outnumbered and will not be as equiped their only advantage is sera itself but chimer has destroyed BILLION of other planets im sure most of them did not go down easy.

Feats of intelligence from the Leviathan, please? Otherwise, we're just assuming that they're as smart as the rest of the species. You said they were constructed from infected beings stacked to 300ft (vague, verbatim description). Doesn't that just make them giant Frankensteins?

Originally posted by Weasel_Nate_88
So if a hundred levithans can choke a worm im sure unlimited leapers can. They can dig themselves and if there is rock surroundings the body as you said the leapers would attack anything ( in this case the mouth ) the riftworm would be struggling to swallow billions of leapers at once while much more are coming. LOL I guess even form of chimera can take out one of the most powerful locust huh? It won't need a levithan. XD 😂

I don't remember hundreds of leviathans being in the same place at once, nor endless leapers. In the case of the leviathans, that would just make them much easier to take out at a time. I'm not convinced by the numbers you're stating. It's been a while since I've played it. I plan on going back to refresh my memory, but I somehow feel like those numbers are bullshit. No disrespect, man.

And if you want to bring up the most powerful of the Locust, try looking into the generals and the queen. Karn, Raam, Skorg, and they're just the ones we know about from the games. Then there's Queen Myrrah, who is essentially similar to them.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
They'll never get the chance to study. Being exposed to Sera's air is probably enough to kill them. If any do try to escape the planet, Reavers gun' em down.

Or Hammer strikes. Also, your mention of Sera's air brings Sera's gravity to mind. WE DON'T KNOW IT. This brings to question whether or not the Chimera would have to adjust. I'm not going to assume anything though. Got anything for me, Nate? Maybe you can answer that question.

Despite all this^, I feel like we all overlooked...

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Indeed. The Lightmass was powered by imulsion iirc. It also did nothing to the Locust as you said. I don't think Imulsion would be too easy to come by for the Chimera anyways. They would have to fight while trying to take and store enough and steal a lightmass prototype so they could build it. And if this is to be a long war the the Chimera are likely to be infected by the imulsion and that would be bad for the Chimera as it would likely split their ranks and cause them to fight each other as well as the Locust. Though if we are to remove the Imulsion then we also have to remove the possibility for the Chimera to build a Lightmass......

While the Chimera may have numbers they really don't have what it takes imo. They were fighting back in 51 and seemed to be having enough trouble fighting back then. They are fighting (in comparison) a VERY VERY technologically advanced species. In fact the Locust are even more technologically advanced then us lol. Also think about the physicality of them. Regular drones can stomp though heads with such ease that there isn't even much of a head left attached.

This guy basically answered our questions.

Originally posted by Weasel_Nate_88
Not really, if they were trying to create a bomb the menials can do it, leaving the much more beastly chimera to protect the base and go to war.

In which case the Locust aren't just gonna trade fire on the surface, they'll tunnel under any defences put up by the chimera and obliterate the menials and their project. And for the sake of another point, even if we magically removed all of the imulsion from Sera, the only way the chimera would benefit from it is that they'll be able to breathe on Sera without dying or going Lambent.

Originally posted by Weasel_Nate_88
Yeah and you kinda ignore the fact that the locust and riftworm would be outsmarted, outnumbered and will not be as equiped their only advantage is sera itself but chimer has destroyed BILLION of other planets im sure most of them did not go down easy.

For all we know WW2 era earth is the toughest oponents they have ever faced... and they still got TRASHED. If your'e supposed to be a bad-ass, space-faring, highly advanced, planet destroying race of aliens, it looks really bad if you're gettin spanked by a species who hasn't yet developed simple computers or even reached the moon yet, lol. And i'm not the one ignoring arguments in this thread, several other people here have knocked down so many of your arguements and you keep going back to them and providing no adequate counter.

Originally posted by Weasel_Nate_88
So if a hundred levithans can choke a worm im sure unlimited leapers can. They can dig themselves and if there is rock surroundings the body as you said the leapers would attack anything ( in this case the mouth ) the riftworm would be struggling to swallow billions of leapers at once while much more are coming. LOL I guess even form of chimera can take out one of the most powerful locust huh? It won't need a levithan. XD 😂

Lulz at billions of leapers being in one place at once, even before locust fry them with the hammer. You seriously think that a Riftworm can choke on leapers? Guess you never saw the hundreds of yards of building sized digestive TEETH. Go ahead, cram the leapers in the Riftworm, you'll just power up an 8 mile long killing machine. And the Leviathans fall to their death, and considering the locust are masters of the subteranean, they pump any remaing leapers full of bullets. Leapers get outmatched under Sera.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
As said, MOST humans don't matter.

You've said this already, and it's given us nothing.

Feats of intelligence from the Leviathan, please? Otherwise, we're just assuming that they're as smart as the rest of the species. You said they were constructed from infected beings stacked to 300ft (vague, verbatim description). Doesn't that just make them giant Frankensteins?

I don't remember hundreds of leviathans being in the same place at once, nor endless leapers. In the case of the leviathans, that would just make them much easier to take out at a time. I'm not convinced by the numbers you're stating. It's been a while since I've played it. I plan on going back to refresh my memory, but I somehow feel like those numbers are bullshit. No disrespect, man.

And if you want to bring up the most powerful of the Locust, try looking into the generals and the queen. Karn, Raam, Skorg, and they're just the ones we know about from the games. Then there's Queen Myrrah, who is essentially similar to them.

Or Hammer strikes. Also, your mention of Sera's air brings Sera's gravity to mind. WE DON'T KNOW IT. This brings to question whether or not the Chimera would have to adjust. I'm not going to assume anything though. Got anything for me, Nate? Maybe you can answer that question.

Despite all this^, I feel like we all overlooked...

There can be a tousand levithans ( not in the same place at once I was only replying to the fanboys comment ) and the leapers reproduce rapidly, to fast for locust to destroy them.

This guy basically answered our questions.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
In which case the Locust aren't just gonna trade fire on the surface, they'll tunnel under any defences put up by the chimera and obliterate the menials and their project. And for the sake of another point, even if we magically removed all of the imulsion from Sera, the only way the chimera would benefit from it is that they'll be able to breathe on Sera without dying or going Lambent.
Wow have you even played RFOM?

Originally posted by COG Veteran
For all we know WW2 era earth is the toughest oponents they have ever faced... and they still got TRASHED. If your'e supposed to be a bad-ass, space-faring, highly advanced, planet destroying race of aliens, it looks really bad if you're gettin spanked by a species who hasn't yet developed simple computers or even reached the moon yet, lol. And i'm not the one ignoring arguments in this thread, several other people here have knocked down so many of your arguements and you keep going back to them and providing no adequate counter.
The human's only won because THEY WERE USING CHIMERAN WEAPONS, CHIMERA WERE FIGHTING TWO RACES AT ONCE AND HUMANS ARE THE "GOOD GUYS" they would never let the good guys die *the only reason the chimera didn't murder them once they set foot on earth*