Hand Book for defeating Apoc!!!!!

Originally posted by SuperMan103
he doesn't job in fights as he has a pretty decent win-lose record. his jobbing shows itself in his schemes and plans. as you probably know he's never been successful in that regard against heroes. heck, he prepped for the twelve for years and he still couldn't achieve his goal even though he had them mutants all locked up. he has the brains, he has the powers, he has the tech, he just doesn't have the character.

and that's why my good sir, apocalypse the eternal mutant is a bum!

Originally posted by Starscream M
actually, apoc doesn't even job...its just a function of being a villain that you inevitably fail

darkseid fails, joker fails, Dr.Doom fails, lex luthor fails.

they've all succeed somewhere.

joker killed jason todd, shot barbra gordon through the spiral cord.

luthor's become the president of the united states.

darkseid's killed a lot of people one of them including batman who got omega sanctioned.

Valeria Richards with prep and access to resources. Already admittedly smarter than her dad pre-puberty.

tank

Originally posted by Uriel005
Valeria Richards with prep and access to resources. Already admittedly smarter than her dad pre-puberty.

tank

scan?

Originally posted by SuperMan103
they've all succeed somewhere.

joker killed jason todd, shot barbra gordon through the spiral cord.

luthor's become the president of the united states.

darkseid's killed a lot of people one of them including batman who got omega sanctioned.

apoc also has successes if we go by that

Originally posted by Starscream M
they've never succeeded in their main goals

apoc also has successes if we go by that

like?

Originally posted by SuperMan103
like?

Originally posted by Starscream M
age of apocalypse

Originally posted by Black bolt z
IS that even canon?

it's not.

its an alt future right? so in a way it IS cannon, isnt it?

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
its an alt future right? so in a way it IS cannon, isnt it?

even barring that, Apoc has succeeded

he's survived longer than any other mutant

he defeated dracula

Originally posted by Starscream M
they've never succeeded in their main goals

apoc also has successes if we go by that

In the former he even managed to make Superman kill himself.

Originally posted by SuperMan103
scan?

It's in Fantastic four volume 1 570-576 somewhere if someone can look I can't find the scans and my subscription online is up... 🙁

Originally posted by Starscream M
even barring that, Apoc has succeeded

he's survived longer than any other mutant

he defeated dracula

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Darkseid got the ALE in Rock of Ages and Final Crisis.

In the former he even managed to make Superman kill himself.

also, I responded to your previous post

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Context. He proved that his arms were stronger than a base level Hulk's (who couldn't rage amp) neck muscles. Wonder Woman would have done the same damn thing to Hulk given that scenario.

There are no known limits? No limits fallacy much? What's the largest he's grown on panel?

Originally posted by Starscream M
you can't prove that wondy could do the same to hulk

also, neck muscles are some of the most powerful muscles on the body....I could prob curl more with my neck than my arm.

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Im not saying he can grow infinite...but he could grow far bigger than giganta and make superman look not like a mouse but like a ant

616 Apoc sucks and hasnt succeeded worth shit. AoA has done better.

what about the twelve story arc?

he kinda succeeded...

Lol okay...

Originally posted by Starscream M
you can't prove that wondy could do the same to hulk

also, neck muscles are some of the most powerful muscles on the body....I could prob curl more with my neck than my arm.

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Im not saying he can grow infinite...but he could grow far bigger than giganta and make superman look not like a mouse but like a ant

What leads you to think neck muscles are that strong? Do you just have incredibly weak arms?

Based on what? When has he ever actually grown larger than Giganta?

well, except when he lost..