Originally posted by Omega Visionit was savage hulk, was it not...despite not amping...savage hulk's base strength is a bit above wondy's
Lol okay...Well of course I can't "prove" it, if by prove you mean show a scan. Because they aren't in the same Universe and have never met. But anyone who knows dick about WW's strength would know she could replicate Apoc's Hulk restraining feat. That was one of Hulk's weakest versions, one who couldn't strength amp from rage. Apoc was in a position where he had leverage. WW in the same position would also have subdued that Hulk.
What leads you to think neck muscles are that strong? Do you just have incredibly weak arms?
Based on what? When has he ever actually grown larger than Giganta?
no, my arms aren't incredibly weak. I may be wrong...but I truly do think well-developed neck muscles are incredibly strong...rivaling arm strength.
based on his powerset. giganta has limits because she isn't really a molecule manipulator, hence her size has constraints by the nature of her muscles, organs, bones, etc. Apoc suffers no such limitations. He can grow bigger...