IG VS Ion

Originally posted by Avlon
]No, his self doubt is CIS and thus part of his character.

Never said ION was eternity either, but noting an interesting observation. Thanos left his body and lost the power of the IG.

With no PIS Thanos will have full knowledge of his powers, and so will Kyle. CIS is still Thanos issue though.

the only cis thing he did was leave his physical form vulnerable when he took eternity place,which he wouldnt be doing in a battle with ion

Originally posted by Enyalus
I beg to differ, good sir. 😛 ZH Parallax not only had the entire Central Battery but also was absorbing large amounts of chronal and entropic energies. In other words, he was amped.

At any rate, Ion just doesn't have the feats to match up to the IG/HOTI (same thing.) imo.

Originally posted by Galan007
I know, but you can't ding me for at least trying to help Ion out.... He was such a cool character. 😛

I wish he would've sparred with Superman, just for the lulz.

Yeah, Ion - and Kyle, are cool. 😄

Originally posted by Galan007
IG/HOTI (same thing.)

Due to the statement about IG's external control in MU:The End ?

Originally posted by Philosophía
Due to the statement about IG's external control in MU:The End ?

😖hifty:

Originally posted by Galan007
That, and the fact that Thanos called the IG "the heart of the universe":

😖hifty:

🙁 I was saving that scan for a future debate.

Originally posted by Nihilist
how many other instances can you remember of his self doubt

That storyline is all I need for this thread. It was clearly stated.

Originally posted by Nihilist
my point being he wouldnt be in eternitys form for this battle as a "eternity"he had no feats

And again, it was an interesting loophole.

Originally posted by Nihilist
the only cis thing he did was leave his physical form vulnerable when he took eternity place,which he wouldnt be doing in a battle with ion

Which would be due to his losing due to self doubt and foreshadowed earlier in that same arc.

Originally posted by Galan007
No, due to Thanos calling the IG "the heart of the universe":

😖hifty:

He also calls himself supreme being/all powerfull and God's might throughout the issue. He clearly also has the real life comic writers' power given form in comics.

You've convinced me. uhuh

haw-som

ig ftw

too many better feats

What I find immensely insulting, is people saying that Spectre cannot compete here, or that he would lose to those abstracts.

Did you all forget about the Logoz?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
What I find immensely insulting, is people saying that Spectre cannot compete here, or that he would lose to those abstracts.

Did you all forget about the Logoz?

Anyway, CIS only effected Thanos after he fought his opponents and beat them... meaning CIS is only applicable to non battles.

That's a fair point. But then again, he never faced anyone who was his equal when he had the gauntlet. So we have no idea how a prolonged fight would play out.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
That's a fair point. But then again, he never faced anyone who was his equal when he had the gauntlet. So we have no idea how a prolonged fight would play out.

Anyway, Thanos gives up the Gauntlet because he wants to be become a universe... what do you think happens? Seriously, that's not even a point.

I'm not arguing that point. I'm just arguing that his self-conscious issues might cost him the win, assuming he's equal to Ion to begin with.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I'm not arguing that point. I'm just arguing that his self-conscious issues might cost him the win, assuming he's equal to Ion to begin with.

Assuming Ion is equal with the IG to begin with... although one can't deny all the shit Kyle did with the power. As well as Parallax's incredible durability...

if you're talking about the arrow through the chest, consider who he was fighting before that.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
if you're talking about the arrow through the chest, consider who he was fighting before that.

Even if he had the full power of Parallax, it still doesn't make him super durable. Even if he's equal to IG in power output, what about his durability?

AFAIK, aside from Spectre, whom the bulk of his power was used fending off, nobody really did anything to him until he ran out of gas. And Parallax did manhandle Extant and Trapper.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
AFAIK, aside from Spectre, whom the bulk of his power was used fending off, nobody really did anything to him until he ran out of gas. And Parallax did manhandle Extant and Trapper.

Well, I guess I was wrong about his durability, since he showed incredible offensive output...