Originally posted by Avlonwarlock is one with the soul gem and he's also outside the sway of chaos and order, that's how he can bypass the ig it has nothing to do with his power level cause if it was, eternity and the lt would be off the radar completely.
Infinite vs Infinite. Sounds like a stalemate to me.3 things though, both Thanos and Kyle took a bit of time adjusting to their newfound godhood.
2nd thing is, Thanos subconsciously doesn't feel worthy of that power and will lose. If Warlock can hide from him, Ion can certainly mask himself as well.
3rd is that little loophole with the IG that Thanos suffered. He became eternity and thus lost the IG. Ion wouldn't have that problem. In fact, ION never lost anything. He simply gave his power up because he felt it was a greater good.
If Thanos "losing mentality" is in effect (and it should be since it's part of his character in that storyline) then ION wins. Power for power though, it should be a stalemate.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
See you are not reading. I said.." however, he was unable to find warlock as hunbu04 said" and MY explanation is that he did not have full master of the IG
lol. Are u ok at all? Now u have gone back to claiming u said he was unable to find him? Something which u just denied? ( Note no such thing even happened at all so u r just talking trash anyways).
Lets go thru ur posts again.
Post 1
Baseless! Did I not say that? Remember, to be in full control he would be the master of all time, space, power, energy..etc which the Gems give the user. Nothing to be hidden to him. The only people that would overpower him are being who have more masterly then he would(LT, or HOTU, or even TOAA) however, he was unable to find warlock as hunbu04 said. Unless there is a good explanation, I wont change my answer
Note how here u agree with hunbu04 in the nonsense claim that thanos was unable to find warlock. by saying " however he was unable to find warlock as hunbu04 said." and use it to suppoert ur point that thanos doesnt have full mastery over the IG
Now lets look at post 2
Did you not hear what I said said? I said noone can overpower the IG unless its LY, HOTU, and TOAA. I also said, Thano was able to find Warlock like...said. Please no to skip through the words
Here u change ur claim and say that u said thanos was ABLE to find warlock negating the first statement. And u have the audacity to tell me im skipping thru words? U are just highly confused.
Now lets look at ur current post
See you are not reading. I said.." however, he was unable to find warlock as hunbu04 said" and MY explanation is that he did not have full master of the IG[/QUOTE]
Now u have reverted again to ur initial agreement with hunbu04 that thanos was unable to find warlock and hence did not have full mastery of the IG.
Unbelievable
😱 😂
Originally posted by Naija boy
lol. Are u ok at all? Now u have gone back to claiming u said he was unable to find him? Something which u just denied? ( Note no such thing even happened at all so u r just talking trash anyways).Lets go thru ur posts again.
Post 1
Note how here u agree with hunbu04 in the nonsense claim that thanos was unable to find warlock. by saying " however he was unable to find warlock [B]as
hunbu04 said." and use it to suppoert ur point that thanos doesnt have full mastery over the IGNow lets look at post 2
Here u change ur claim and say that u said thanos was ABLE to find warlock negating the first statement. And u have the audacity to tell me im skipping thru words? U are just highly confused.
Now lets look at ur current post
Now u have reverted again to ur initial agreement with hunbu04 that thanos was unable to find warlock and hence did not have full mastery of the IG.
Unbelievable
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Now I see why this is confusing. I have misspelled a few words like able. Which you clearly saw. In my first statement I said that I believe that Hunbu04 was right! My reason to why hunbu04 though that way was that Thanos can not use the full potential of the IG.
In my second post I mean to say is unable NOT able. Again a small mistake that leads to a big discussion
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Now I see why this is confusing. I have misspelled a few words like able. Which you clearly saw. In my first statement I said that I believe that Hunbu04 was right! My reason to why hunbu04 though that way was that Thanos can not use the full potential of the IG.In my second post I mean to say is unable NOT able. Again a small mistake that leads to a big discussion
Thanos is probably the most qualified being to wield the IG. He's collected all the gems prior to Thanos Quest and even siphoned off their power into a larger, Star Gem. Then he collected them individually in Thanos Quest, on his way to forging the Infinity Gauntlet itself when he has all of them together. Then he was the guardian of the most powerful Infinity Gem, the Reality Gem.
If anyone can wield the IG to its full potential, its him. He does so and embarrasses all the major abstracts with ease.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Thanos is probably the most qualified being to wield the IG. He's collected all the gems prior to Thanos Quest and even siphoned off their power into a larger, Star Gem. Then he collected them individually in Thanos Quest, on his way to forging the Infinity Gauntlet itself when he has all of them together. Then he was the guardian of the most powerful Infinity Gem, the Reality Gem.If anyone can wield the IG to its full potential, its him. He does so and embarrasses all the major abstracts with ease.
Originally posted by Naija boy
xJLxking have u even read any of the comics where thanos had the IG? Any at all?
This is where I get confused and what makes me question the IG. Remember, he is the master of Space, Mind, Soul, Reality, Time, Power, Ego. Basically he is the master of all that is (correct me If I am wrong). However, how can he lose to LT. Remember LT was shown to nullify the IG(right?). So is Thanos truly the master? Maybe he is, but he just can't control it? maybe the "master" is misused, but hey that my Guess.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Honestly, only a few so far. Since I don't know the series, number, and the year it was published it is hard to download it, or even buy it. The one I have have shown Thanos using all his abilities(given by IG). However, that's not my dispute. You are probably misunderstanding what I am trying to say because of how I word it. Let me try it this way!. If someone give you a gun that give you a lot of abilities, strenght, and to be the master of Shooting(accuracy)(think of it as IG). How can you proof that you are a master unless you beat another person who also has more power(think of this person as LT).This is where I get confused and what makes me question the IG. Remember, he is the master of Space, Mind, Soul, Reality, Time, Power, Ego. Basically he is the master of all that is (correct me If I am wrong). However, how can he lose to LT. Remember LT was shown to nullify the IG(right?). So is Thanos truly the master? Maybe he is, but he just can't control it? maybe the "master" is misused, but hey that my Guess.
Thanos with the IG was the master of all that is but still under LT who is second only to TOAA. Thanos was able to easily defeat all the abstracts and cosmic beings who themselves had a given level of mastery of time, space,reality etc. Its not that he coudnt control it, its that the IG gives u mastery of everything with u still being below LT
Originally posted by Naija boy
Thanos with the IG was the master of all that is but still under LT who is second only to TOAA. Thanos was able to easily defeat all the abstracts and cosmic beings who themselves had a given level of mastery of time, space,reality etc.
Now if you are a master you are the stronger. That's the term, right? However, how is he overpowered then? It just means it proven wrong.
It like me saying I am the king and master of Kick Boxing. That's true till someone comes and kicks my ass. Most likely going to be you 😄 Right?
so in this case Ig give you incredible power but not the ability to be the Master of everything that is. I am probably wrong; This is a Speculation on my part
Originally posted by xJLxKing
No no I understand that. I saw the scans from respect threads and other websites. So far it goes something like this
TOAA-He is an image of god, or the writer of marvel
HOTU(with user)-this has the power of god
LT-Stated to be second to god
IG(with user)-Allows you to be master of space, soul, mind, ...etcNow if you are a master you are the stronger. That's the term, right? However, how is he overpowered then? It just means it proven wrong.
It like me saying I am the king and master of Kick Boxing. That's true till someone comes and kicks my ass. Most likely going to be you 😄 Right?
so in this case Ig give you incredible power but not the ability to be the Master of everything that is. I am probably wrong; This is a Speculation on my part
In marvel there are different levels mastery which a person can attain. Hence chronos who was the god of time and had complete "mastery" of it still was unable to overcome thanos with IG because he had the time gem which gave thanos the superior absolute master of time. Similarly thanos was the "master" of evrything below LT level. LT on the other hand is the "master" of evrything below HOTU and TOAA level. And HOTU/TOAA is the overall "master" of evrything
Originally posted by Naija boy
In marvel there are different levels mastery which a person can attain. Hence chronos who was the god of time and had complete "mastery" of it still was unable to overcome thanos with IG because he had the time gem which gave thanos the superior absolute master of time. Similarly thanos was the "master" of evrything below LT level. LT on the other hand is the "master" of evrything below HOTU and TOAA level. And HOTU/TOAA is the overall "master" of evrything