Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well you did actually seem to give reasons why you're team could give the jla a good fight.....
Naah, thats not the reason why I said what I said, it was his last post and I basically disagree with the entire thing. I'm kind of leaning towards the jla side myself but his post didnt help me do that because I think that it was inaccurate. Just my opinion though.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well not sure myself, but from what you said earlier doesnt seem like spite. The problem I have with the JLA is CIS. Somtimes the Flash and Kyle are not terribly impressive.
vs
Magneto (forcefield on), Shields cant last forever.
Vulcan: anyone can beat/own him. Got his ass kick by Havok.
Terrax: gets owned because of jobbing factor and is super dumb.
Morg: The most powerful on team, Supes beats him or others come in and helps for a gang bang.
Binary: GL is bigger and better.
Nova (current version): Orion stomps his ass.
Ronan: Gets own by FS.
WWh: Is not even a factor here.
Flash will be hitting/stealing speed from everyone at the same time.
Originally posted by Anti-Monitor
vsMagneto (forcefield on), Shields cant last forever.
Vulcan: anyone can beat/own him. Got his ass kick by Havok.
Terrax: gets owned because of jobbing factor and is super dumb.
Morg: The most powerful on team, Supes beats him or others come in and helps for a gang bang.
Binary: GL is bigger and better.
Nova (current version): Orion stomps his ass.
Ronan: Gets own by FS.
WWh: Is not even a factor here.Flash will be hitting/stealing speed from everyone at the same time.
I forgot not to put flash in vs threads but wwh is a factor and he would/could crush anyone on the opposing team, pull another konvikt/titus/despero and lets not forget that wwh is stronger then all of them.
Magneto forcefield has taken shots from galactus so who on the opposing team can put up as much force as that.
Terrax is a job but that still dont change the fact that he has the power cosmic and has a tool that can wreck planets. I wonder who on the oppossing team can take that and dont say superman because the (i think there name was.............) sinister six had a guy on the team that carried a ax and he almost took superman arm off if superman didnt dodge it (on war world), superman was bleeding.
Morg is one of the most powerful on the field and he should be able to get a majority over anyone on the opposing team since he doesnt hold back.
Vulcan control all spectrums of light on a unlimited scale, gl would be in trouble fighting him.
Binary is very powerful and could mess the martian up since he does have a weakness to fire and she is the prime force of fire. The thing to think about is if jon has a way of taking her out.
Nova is a beast and he could easily bfr orion since orion is lets say, grounded.
I agree firestorm would crush ronan.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Kyle's a short bump away from Trans?Come on.....
Johns has a -very- different idea in mind.
he has the high feats to prove it, imo. i doubt he's somehow gotten worse as a gl. unless johns has seriously depowered the rings, which i don't think he has, you could stick hal in there too...
Originally posted by Naija boy
It was directed at ur comment about firestorm possibly being the best matter manipulator in existence.
that's why i said possibly and not definitively. jason needs time, assuming it's jason that's being talked about.
norrin is still above him atm, imo.
Originally posted by carver9
I disagree with this post, I'm not going to give my reason why but the entire post is completely wrong to me.
the posters on kmc agreed that they were high herald, unless you mean something else.
Originally posted by Anti-Monitor
vsMagneto (forcefield on), Shields cant last forever.
Vulcan: anyone can beat/own him. Got his ass kick by Havok.
Terrax: gets owned because of jobbing factor and is super dumb.
Morg: The most powerful on team, Supes beats him or others come in and helps for a gang bang.
Binary: GL is bigger and better.
Nova (current version): Orion stomps his ass.
Ronan: Gets own by FS.
WWh: Is not even a factor here.Flash will be hitting/stealing speed from everyone at the same time.
I think carver stated that Havok was amped by a star...
Sure Flash can steal speed but sometimes he just doesnt fight like that, look at his recent fight with Shadow Cabinet. Hell Kyle got shot right in front of The Flash and he didnt even react....
Also from what I remember Kyle needed help from Superman and WW to move a moon sized object. That doesnt make him an
Now im not saying that the JLA are going to lose and im pretty sure feats will vary im just pointing out that sometimes Flash and Kyle arent that impressive.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I think carver stated that Havok was amped by a star...Sure Flash can steal speed but sometimes he just doesnt fight like that, look at his recent fight with Shadow Cabinet. Hell Kyle got shot right in front of The Flash and he didnt even react....
Also from what I remember Kyle needed help from Superman and WW to move a moon sized object. That doesnt make him an
Now im not saying that the JLA are going to lose and im pretty sure feats will vary im just pointing out that sometimes Flash and Kyle arent that impressive.
Originally posted by Raoul
he has the high feats to prove it, imo. i doubt he's somehow gotten worse as a gl. unless johns has seriously depowered the rings, which i don't think he has, you could stick hal in there too...that's why i said possibly and not definitively. jason needs time, assuming it's jason that's being talked about.
norrin is still above him atm, imo.
the posters on kmc agreed that they were high herald, unless you mean something else.
Thats exactly what I'm talking about. High heralds and top tiers are two different things.
Top tiers consist of power houses (who also has the ability to give heralds a fight and possibly pull wins)
High heralds consist of beings with a HUGE, Very high scale of versatility and power which almost noone that you said have. Half the people that you named are bricks and prefer using there fist and high end durability. High heralds use exotic powers in combat along with speed, strength and durability. Two different things; again, if we base it the way that you're thinking then mimic is a mid herald level being.
Originally posted by Digi
[b]Full Capacity
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.[/B]
Originally posted by Raoul
he has the high feats to prove it, imo. i doubt he's somehow gotten worse as a gl. unless johns has seriously depowered the rings, which i don't think he has, you could stick hal in there too....
I personally think Hal is much closer to Trans than Kyle.
Maybe it's because of all the attention he's been given lately. It's all Hal this, Hal that.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
What about CIS?CIS Roaul. 🙄
CIS means Superman will use his speed eventually, he just won't use it to punt your head in to orbit.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I personally think Hal is much closer to Trans than Kyle.Maybe it's because of all the attention he's been given lately. It's all Hal this, Hal that.
Hal > Kyle, imo.
Originally posted by carver9
Thats exactly what I'm talking about. High heralds and top tiers are two different things.Top tiers consist of power houses (who also has the ability to give heralds a fight and possibly pull wins)
High heralds consist of beings with a HUGE, Very high scale of versatility and power which almost noone that you said have. Half the people that you named are bricks and prefer using there fist and high end durability. High heralds use exotic powers in combat along with speed, strength and durability. Two different things; again, if we base it the way that you're thinking then mimic is a mid herald level being.
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