HP Doomsday Vs Monarch

Started by quanchi1128 pages

Originally posted by h1a8
Monarch should be nearly Omnipotent if not already. He absorbed every captain atom in the entire multiverse. I view Monarch>Imperiex.
What? Omnipotent yet he thought Prime was dead and later was defeated by him? Do you even know what the word means?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Didn't you earlier say HPDD wins in nanoseconds?

No! Naija quoted me from another thread.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What? Omnipotent yet he thought Prime was dead and later was defeated by him? Do you even know what the word means?

You're late. If you read the following posts you would see this post is unnecessary.

D.C. has only 52 universes not infinite.

Originally posted by h1a8
You're late. If you read the following posts you would see this post is unnecessary.

D.C. has only 52 universes not infinite.

This still has nothing to do with being omnipotent.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What? Omnipotent yet he thought Prime was dead and later was defeated by him? Do you even know what the word means?

Omnipotent is the most often misused and misunderstood word in comics.

Omnipotence: all powerful, nothing can overcome omnipotence. Clearly Monarch isn't omnipotent, he's powerful but he's probably Cube Being or less.

Omniscience: all-knowing, this means you know everything that has happened, everything that is happening, and everything that will happen. Clearly Monarch isn't omniscient.

Omnipresence: the state of being everywhere at once. Again this isn't Monarch.

Nowadays people seem to forget that omnipotence only refers to a third of the God equation and seem to think that someone who's omnipotent would also be all-knowing.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Omnipotent is the most often misused and misunderstood word in comics.

Omnipotence: all powerful, nothing can overcome omnipotence. Clearly Monarch isn't omnipotent, he's powerful but he's probably Cube Being or less.

Omniscience: all-knowing, this means you know everything that has happened, everything that is happening, and everything that will happen. Clearly Monarch isn't omniscient.

Omnipresence: the state of being everywhere at once. Again this isn't Monarch.

Nowadays people seem to forget that omnipotence only refers to a third of the God equation and seem to think that someone who's omnipotent would also be all-knowing.

He's nowhere close to cube being.

To make a long story short h1 didn't know what the word meant.

Originally posted by h1a8

D.C. has only 52 universes not infinite.
wut

Originally posted by quanchi112
This still has nothing to do with being omnipotent.

Yes it does. If he has the power of infinite CAs then he would be relatively omnipotent. Eternity, LT, Death, etc. all have relative Omnipotence. TOAA is the only one who has absolute Omnipotence.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Omnipotent is the most often misused and misunderstood word in comics.

Omnipotence: all powerful, nothing can overcome omnipotence. Clearly Monarch isn't omnipotent, he's powerful but he's probably Cube Being or less.

Omniscience: all-knowing, this means you know everything that has happened, everything that is happening, and everything that will happen. Clearly Monarch isn't omniscient.

Omnipresence: the state of being everywhere at once. Again this isn't Monarch.

Nowadays people seem to forget that omnipotence only refers to a third of the God equation and seem to think that someone who's omnipotent would also be all-knowing.

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Originally posted by h1a8
Yes it does. If he has the power of infinite CAs then he would be relatively omnipotent. Eternity, LT, Death, etc. all have relative Omnipotence. TOAA is the only one who has absolute Omnipotence.
No, he wouldn't. 😂

Prime defeated him. You don't read comics just admit it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he wouldn't. 😂

Prime defeated him. You don't read comics just admit it.

Prime defeated him because his didn't have infinite CAs in him. Are you listening? I said IF Monarch had infinite CAs (instead of 52) then he would be relatively omnipotent. But since he doesn't then what are you talking about?

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
wut

Only 52 universes and 1 anti universe. It originally had infinitely many of them though but only 53 only exists now.

Originally posted by h1a8
Prime defeated him because his didn't have infinite CAs in him. Are you listening? I said [b]IF Monarch had infinite CAs (instead of 52) then he would be relatively omnipotent. But since he doesn't then what are you talking about? [/B]
How could he in the first place absorb infinite ca's? 😂 He absorbed the ones who showed up to stop him in countdown arena.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How could he in the first place absorb infinite ca's? 😂 He absorbed the ones who showed up to stop him in countdown arena.

Who cares how he could in the first place?
Do you know what an IF statement is? Your intelligence is very low so I don't think you do.

If Mickey Mouse eats a roach then Donald Duck will jump into the ocean.
What's the meaning of that?

Originally posted by h1a8
Who cares how he could in the first place?
Do you know what an IF statement is? Your intelligence is very low so I don't think you do.

If Mickey Mouse eats a roach then Donald Duck will jump into the ocean.
What's the meaning of that?

This from the guy who always thinks an event takes place in comics only to find out he's always wrong. Aren't you sick and tired f spouting fabrications?

Whether Monarch is all powerful or not has nothing to do with this fight. Monarch has the power to slap DD around and play with him.

Monarch could absorb however many CA he wants and still would never ever be Omnipotent. As far as this thread, Monarch with ease.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Monarch could absorb however many CA he wants and still would never ever be Omnipotent. As far as this thread, Monarch with ease.

Yeah I could absorb an infinite number of me and I still wouldn't be able to breath in space.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yeah I could absorb an infinite number of me and I still wouldn't be able to breath in space.
Uh well i think if Monarch did absorb and infinite amount of his counterparts he would be nigh omnipotent because of his powerset.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Uh well i think if Monarch did absorb and infinite amount of his counterparts he would be nigh omnipotent because of his powerset.

There was nothing omnipotent about him to begin so why would absorbing 1,000,000 more of him mean he's omnipotent now?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
There was nothing omnipotent about him to begin so why would absorbing 1,000,000 more of him mean he's omnipotent now?

A single Captain Atom is pretty powerful. Energy and (to an extent I think) matter manipulation along with flight, super-strength, and manipulation of the Quantum Field which is similar to the Green in that its an intrinsic force of the DCU. He would never be truly omnipotent no matter how many times you multiply his powers but 20000x Post Arena Monarch would be pretty damn powerful. Like making the Living Tribunal intervene powerful.
Just out of curiosity does anyone know if there's ever been a direct connection between the Speedforce and the various Elemental forces like the Red, Green, and so on?