Batman vs. Jango Fett

Originally posted by Robtard
Lucas being moron is no grounds to dismiss that lasers in SW universe travel significantly slower than bullets. /end fact

Significantly slower is a subjective use of words, however, I agree. But if you consider 200-500 mph slow, then you're an idiot. 😐

Originally posted by Robtard
I don't remember that scene, can you youtube it? Taking you at your word, we have one scene of a accurate protrayal of a laser and hundreds of scenes of them moving stupidity slow. Ergo, SW lasers travel slow.

No, I'm at work. I cannot youtube it for you. However, it is common knowledge among star wars nerds on blaster bolt speed arguments. Seriously. Anytime someone brings up the trash argument, the response is the instantaneous shot on the control panel...negating each other out. Two PIS moments on opposite ends of the spectrum, then we're left with most of the other stuff. I think the blaster bolt speed in AoTC during the massive battle between the clones and robots is nice and representative. It's newer, animated better, and can be calculated because of the nice 60fps.

And, no, 200-500 mph is far from stupidly. Stupidly slow would Batman's speed relative the the fury of a dual pistol firing barrage from Jango. Batman, in any circumstance, ends up as swiss cheese.

Originally posted by Robtard
Batman is shown being adept at evading gun fire, it shouldn't be too much trouble for him to do so against Jango's little pistols and having the city of Gotham to use as cover.

That didn't come out right, now did it?

Batman is great at avoiding gunfire with plenty of obstacles to hide behind from thugs will little weapons skill and poor accuracy.

Little pisols? HA! You must be joking. Those "little pistols" can one shot multi-ton thick hided beasts.

Originally posted by Robtard
Sure, if you look past what the movie shows you and you attribute all the badassery we'd like to see/expect in Jango, then he wins. <--- this is the main argument for Jango here.

No, the main argument for Jango is he is better equipped (and skilled with that equipment) than Batman can handle.

Originally posted by Robtard
Movie per movie character and looking at it objectively, Jango loses to Batman in Gotham, maybe if they fought in an open desert and Jango was far enough away, then he'd win.

No, looking at it objectively would net you a Jango victory, with out any effort on Jango's part.
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Originally posted by Robtard
As for the "Jango's armor protects him!" rants, his armor isn't all encompassing, there are multiple uncovered/unprotected areas. Just look at a picture, you clowns. He isn't a tank.

Bla bla bla.

Jango can fight Bats naked. If you give him his two pistols, Batman is extra holy swiss cheese.

haermm MAN that was a pwn!!!

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
haermm MAN that was a pwn!!!

Not in any way unless you already blindly accepted Jango as winner. He didn't prove his points as true or negate Robtard's...so it was far from a "pwn". Though, it is clear why you'd claim it was.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Not in any way unless you already blindly accepted Jango as winner. He didn't prove his points as true or negate Robtard's...so it was far from a "pwn". Though, it is clear why you'd claim it was.

Here's why I think Jango would win.

1. He can go airborne, evading Batman.

2. His blasters will burn through Batman's armor (Quite easily, I might add)

3. If it comes down to close quarters, then, as Blaxican said, flamethower to the face. Or blasters to anywhere on Batman's person, as I said, blasterfire will burn right through Bat armor.

4. Jango kills, Batman doesn't.

5. Batman is fast, but he aint THAT fast. Jango had two blasters, he will find his mark and blow Batman to smithereens.

6. Jango's backpack mounted missile.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well, all of his points were addressed, and everything pretty much points to Jango winning. But you're right, probably not a pwn, just outdebated? My apologies if Rob is offended by my previous post.

Here's why I think Jango would win.

1. He can go airborne, evading Batman.

2. His blasters will burn through Batman's armor (Quite easily, I might add)

3. If it comes down to close quarters, then, as Blaxican said, flamethower to the face. Or blasters to anywhere on Batman's person, as I said, blasterfire will burn right through Bat armor.

4. Jango kills, Batman doesn't.

5. Batman is fast, but he aint THAT fast. Jango had two blasters, he will find his mark and blow Batman to smithereens.

6. Jango's backpack mounted missile.

1. How does he evade the machine guns?

2. True, if he hits.

3. If Jango has his blasters he has an advantage in close combat, but Batman is not helpless and has weapons to help him as well.

4. Batman didn't outright state that he wouldn't go that far. He just tends to try to avoid that. And Impediment didn't state whether it is to the death, yet, did he?

5. Obviously Batman couldn't dodge rapid shots fired at him...though, the assumption that Batman would just run around like a retard flapping his hands in the air while Jango gets to shoot at him as often as he wants is ridiculous. Batman would evade the blaster attacks through hiding in a house or through his extremely fast Batpod, which would give him a better chance to outmanover Jango and not give him the chance to shoot him (or he might just shoot back, the guns are certainly faster traveling than Jango's bolts).

6. Had little impact on Obi Wan at very close range. It might give him an advantage, but it is not a deal breaker by any means.

Originally posted by Bardock42
1. How does he evade the machine guns?

2. True, if he hits.

3. If Jango has his blasters he has an advantage in close combat, but Batman is not helpless and has weapons to help him as well.

4. Batman didn't outright state that he wouldn't go that far. He just tends to try to avoid that. And Impediment didn't state whether it is to the death, yet, did he?

5. Obviously Batman couldn't dodge rapid shots fired at him...though, the assumption that Batman would just run around like a retard flapping his hands in the air while Jango gets to shoot at him as often as he wants is ridiculous. Batman would evade the blaster attacks through hiding in a house or through his extremely fast Batpod, which would give him a better chance to outmanover Jango and not give him the chance to shoot him (or he might just shoot back, the guns are certainly faster traveling than Jango's bolts).

6. Had little impact on Obi Wan at very close range. It might give him an advantage, but it is not a deal breaker by any means.

2. He'll hit. He would have hit Obi Wan several times if Obi Wan hadn't blocked them.

3. Agreed. H2h close up and Jango is done.

4. Waiting for Impediment to elaborate I guess.

5. OK let's drop this, I dont want to get into a debate about how fast blaster bolts travel.

6. True.

I don't know how mobile the machine guns are, but Batman certainly showed that he can make the pod aim into the air, and I assume it wouldn't be good for Jango to get shot with it.

I wouldn't really say that's a clear win for either, though, personally I'd lean towards Jango from the little we have seen by him.

Two words:

Swiss Cheese

Originally posted by dadudemon
Two words:

Swiss Cheese

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, that's certainly not what would happen.

Yeah, that's certainly what would happen.

If RJ would have selected Batman, you would have sided with Jango. 😬

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, that's certainly not what would happen.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You saying that blaster fire wouldnt burn through Bat armor?

Taking EU into account yeah...but then, taking Batman's further fiction into account it gets more interesting again.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yeah, that's certainly what would happen.

If RJ would have selected Batman, you would have sided with Jango. 😬

Movies only, B.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Movies only, B.

And nothing else have I used in my discussion of the fight, have I?

Originally posted by Bardock42
And nothing else have I used in my discussion of the fight, have I?

Fair dos.

Originally posted by dadudemon

Let's be honest, you're randomly throwing out the 200-500 mph travel, though it might be close. You have no concrete idea how fast it travels, the only thing we have to go on is the shooting in the movies by and large, they travel slow, look at the battle scens when the battalions of droids and clones are shooting, it's rediculously slow, relatively to how fast we know bullets travel.

The fight is in Gotham and I specifically said this is the reason Jango wouldn't just shoot him and it'd be over in seconds, did you not follow? Gotham is a plus for Batman.

Your "Jango wins without effort" rant despite what Batman has done in the movies is clear you're letting your boyhood fancination of what Jango[Boba] is supposed to be cloud your judgement.

That's between 90 to 220 m/s and highly visible, which should be an advantage over ordinary, basically not visible bullets traveling 300 - 1200 m/s.

But it doesn't really matter that much, there's no reason to assume Jango would just shoot Batman with one shot.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
[B]He was in the previous movies.
He had a flameproof suit.

Well, if we go only on "what is in the specified runs of movies",
there is no evidence whatsoever that Jango can fire that thing whilst flying.

Doesn't matter. There's no evidence to say that it requires him to be mobiel either.

No we dont. What do you base that on..? 😛

Dogs > His armor.

You assume that Jango gets the time to light the pilotlight let alone react in time.

He raised his hand and it fired instantly. You don't know if it even uses a pilotlight, so you don't have a point.

Assuming he hasnt used all the gas from the pack in flight.

How do you know it uses gas? It actually doesn't, though the movies don't show it.

[quote]If getting a flamethrower going so quick is so easy, then why didnt he employ it against Mace Windu...?
[i]Because once his pack was screwed, it didnt work..?

Yes, it runs off his jetpack. Hence he can't use it in the air.

Theres alot of "if Jango sneaks up on or sideblinds Batman..." here.

Not really.

What if Batman sneaks up on Jango...? All he has to do is destroy the pack. (which'll be right in front of Batman, all nicely unprotected until Jango becomes aware of his prescence.)

Impossible. batman isn't skilled enough to sneak up on Jango, and he's nto strong enough to destroy the jetpack either. I already proved that the jetpack used in RotJ and AotC are different.

Jango wins. And I've yet to even bring up the kamnino sabor darts, which kill in one hit and are small and super fast... He doesn't need them to win though. That's just overkill.

If Batman were to get close enough to touch the jetpack, it's all over for Jango then, messing with the jetpack or no. He hasn't shown any h2h that comes close to Batman's skills in that area.

I'm curious why you say "Batman isn't skilled enough to sneak up on Jango"? Considering he's a trained ninja and attacking from the shadows is their mantra. There are several scenes depicting Batman's sneaking abilities.

That dart he used to kill the other bounty hunter, the one that was laying prone on the floor and distracted, it logically couldn't penetrate the Bat-suit, he's have to hit Batman in the exposed area of his face. They also seem to be an assassination weapon, used when unseen, not mid-fight.

Edit: Looking closely at it [jetpack], it looks fairly sturdy, at least in regards to human hands messing with it. There is one noticeable weak point, the two thrusters look a bit flimsy. How was it taken out in AOTC, again?