Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
And any anarchist who thinks a bit of graffiti on a building will change the world had best go back the drawing board and do some thinking.The guy seems to be a bit of a self publicist, allowing cameras to be there.
It's like the sign in your sig...about getting publicity for the cause.
Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
It is a matter of authority. Anarchists do not want faceless corporations and government bodies have authority over he people. However that does not preclude the possibility of people working together which ultimately is the utopian world from an Anarchist perspective.Think of what association means- associates, a company of equals.
Anarchy is nothing to do with the absense of order.
Yet the once they have excerted their influence and controlled the people, becoming the new establishment, ineffect, do they then commit suicide out of principles...?
Or grab the great big paychecks with both hands...?
There are millions of bank managers in the world, Im sure who all listened to rock music and hated 'the man' once.
Well Im sure the ten years'll be worth him having defeated his enemy: A clean wall. 🙄
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Yet the once they have excerted their influence and controlled the people, becoming the new establishment, ineffect, do they then commit suicide out of principles...?Or grab the great big paychecks with both hands...?
There are millions of bank managers in the world, Im sure who all listened to rock music and hated 'the man' once.
Well Im sure the ten years'll be worth him having defeated his enemy: A clean wall. 🙄
Ad hominem much?
You totally fail to address the principles of anarchy (which it is clear you know very little if anything about) and in doing so fail to put forward a decent argument. Sure, I agree that anarchy seems like a very very unlikely eventuality for any country...because there will always be positions of power and power corrupts as we know.
Think of Animal Farm.
Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
You totally fail to address the principles of anarchy (which it is clear you know very little if anything about) and in doing so fail to put forward a decent argument.
Nonsense. Any idiot can use google to become versed in the principles of anarchy in 30 minutes or less.
Just for shits and giggles, I'll do it now.
Originally posted by inimalist
god, not to start another thread about anarchy, but anyone who thinks social organization is against anarchist beliefs is woefully ignorant of them....the remark about "real" anarchists was a joke...
Thank you!!!
Originally posted by dadudemon
Nonsense. Any idiot can use google to become versed in the principles of anarchy in 30 minutes or less.Just for shits and giggles, I'll do it now.
You only need five, go over the Wikipedia article.
Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Ad hominem much?You totally fail to address the principles of anarchy (which it is clear you know very little if anything about) and in doing so fail to put forward a decent argument. Sure, I agree that anarchy seems like a very very unlikely eventuality for any country...because there will always be positions of power and power corrupts as we know.
Think of Animal Farm.
You cant fail in that which you dont attempt.
(Something you might remember when you next thinking of attempting to go on a big personal attack without knowing anything about the person you address.) 🙂
Since my being aware of animal farm probably (both Orwellian and porn versions) before you were born is a factor, I'd tighten the lip a little, if were I you.
😉
Now fail on...
😮💨
Originally posted by inimalist
oh, you are preaching to the choir on this onetell people they don't need the government and they think you want to rape babies
Preaching...choir...rape...
There is some sort of subliminal message here...
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
You cant fail in that which you dont attempt.
Is that your bail out Clause? "Oh, I never tried to argue about Anarchy".
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
(Something you might remember when you next thinking of attempting to go on a big personal attack without knowing anything about the person you address.) 🙂
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Since my being aware of animal farm probably (both Orwellian and porn versions) before you were born is a factor, I'd tighten the lip a little, if were I you.😉
Now fail on...
😮💨
So you're claiming that because it is possible that you were aware of a book (does that mean you've not read it?) longer than I have existed you therefore know more about it's content and the mysteries of the world? That must be the third and final clause "Older and Wiser". Three simple steps of trying to win an argument which you have already lost...
[edit] I said win I should really have said salvage...also, why not address what I said and talk about how anarchy is wrong or admit that you are not that well versed in anarchy and move on? Also, since the Pope is older and therefore wiser than you...no doubt aware of the Bible before you were born (I'd go so far as to say he read it before you were born). Will you be converting to Catholicism?
Originally posted by dadudemon
Hmm you're being interestingly aggressive today...why don't you go off and read that wikipedia page?
It might save you from making another "ooh anarchist alliance, that is totally against what they believe in, I know that because...well I know that...they must be retards." error.
Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Preaching...choir...rape...There is some sort of subliminal message here...
Is that your bail out Clause? "Oh, I never tried to argue about Anarchy".
Introducing the mystery clause now? "Oh, for all you know I am a professor in anarchy.
So you're claiming that because it is possible that you were aware of a book (does that mean you've not read it?) longer than I have existed you therefore know more about it's content and the mysteries of the world? That must be the third and final clause "Older and Wiser". Three simple steps of trying to win an argument which you have already lost...
[edit] I said win I should really have said salvage...also, why not address what I said and talk about how anarchy is wrong or admit that you are not that well versed in anarchy and move on? Also, since the Pope is older and therefore wiser than you...no doubt aware of the Bible before you were born (I'd go so far as to say he read it before you were born). Will you be converting to Catholicism?
A needless reactionary much?
Yeah continue inaccurately pigeonholing too.
NO bailout was neccesary.
Again, see above.
And again see aboves.
I wasnt debating against anarchy.
I was debating that the protest was very ineffective, when it came balanced against ten years in clink, my argument was that it might have been better executed maybe or in a way that engendered some kind of statement/message that'd get people focused...
I mean....What did that really do in terms of generating any idea/trigger for change..?
That paint'll be gone next week, whereas he has butt sex on tap whether he wants it or not now...
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
A needless reactionary much?NO bailout was neccesary.
Again, see above.
And again see aboves.
I wasnt debating against anarchy.
I was debating that the protest was very ineffective, when it came balanced against ten years in clink, my argument was that it might have been better executed maybe or in a way that engendered some kind of statement/message that'd get people focused...I mean....What did that really do in terms of generating any idea/trigger for change..?
That paint'll be gone next week, whereas he has butt sex on tap whether he wants it or not now...
As I said, his methodology was the same as Humanist group who commissioned the sign in your sig.
Indeed. But maybe the guy wouldve reached more if only if he copied it a few hundred times and slapped it where it'd be seen beyond a quick news report....like even on Buses up and down the country. Now that'd almost be worth a few years inside...
And I bet the humanist message was heard of more than this guy's.