Originally posted by gefallen_engel
I would still think the lives of the others is still worth more than mine, even though those are 3 people I wouldnt want alive there are still 99,997 others and they should be given a chance to live
But, the three people killed roughly 100 000 000 people. Would that not change the decision by your logic (which is apparently 1 life < 2 < 3 ...
A very, I guess, simple utilitarian idea.
If among those 100,000 were thousands of really hot STD free women, and I got to have sex with every one of them (because women are just objects to fulfill my manly desires, obviously 🙄 ) over the course of a few years, then yes. I would.
Seriously, though, no. I don't think I would. Even Jesus said that no great love hath a man than this, that he should lay down his life for his friend. So it would be less or no love to do it for strangers.
Originally posted by Bardock42
But, the three people killed roughly 100 000 000 people. Would that not change the decision by your logic (which is apparently 1 life < 2 < 3 ...A very, I guess, simple utilitarian idea.
I honestly do believe that the ends justify the means. If I could be guaranteed that those 3 people wouldn't be among the 100,000 there would be no debating about whether or not I would do it, but that's life, it's all unknown. There are circumstances where I would say no, for example would I sacrifice myself for 100,000 Iraqi's or Afghani's? HELL NO! but 100,000 people in other various countries? yes I would
I would die for 100,000 Iraqis or Afghanis
what makes them any less of a human being?
are human beings THAT expendable?
not all of them are "terrorists"
These are humans that function just like you, they breathe the same air, they drink the same water they need
They have families and loved ones too
Sons, daughters, mothers, fathers, grandfathers, grandmothers, aunts, uncles, friends, people that mean something significant to another!
You guys can disagree with me, but... damn... you'd better find the f*cking cure for cancer, or at least appreciate your goddamn life.
It'd be so goddamn pathetic if after you made your choice, and all those people died, and you lived, if you complained the next day about how much your life 'sucks'.
Originally posted by Selphie
I would die for 100,000 Iraqis or Afghaniswhat makes them any less of a human being?
are human beings THAT expendable?
not all of them are "terrorists"
These are humans that function just like you, they breathe the same air, they drink the same water they need
They have families and loved ones too
Sons, daughters, mothers, fathers, grandfathers, grandmothers, aunts, uncles, friends, people that mean something significant to another!
You guys can disagree with me, but... damn... you'd better find the f*cking cure for cancer, or at least appreciate your goddamn life.
It'd be so goddamn pathetic if after you made your choice, and all those people died, and you lived, if you complained the next day about how much your life 'sucks'.
I would dye my hair for you
Originally posted by gefallen_engelWhy, what's wrong with Afghans or Iraquis?
I honestly do believe that the ends justify the means. If I could be guaranteed that those 3 people wouldn't be among the 100,000 there would be no debating about whether or not I would do it, but that's life, it's all unknown. There are circumstances where I would say no, for example would I sacrifice myself for 100,000 Iraqi's or Afghani's? HELL NO! but 100,000 people in other various countries? yes I would
And do you have a list of how countries are valued by you?
Originally posted by Bardock42
Why, what's wrong with Afghans or Iraquis?And do you have a list of how countries are valued by you?
The terrorist attacks, that is why I wouldn't sacrifice myself for them, ya I know not all of them are terrorists, but you're talking to someone who is joining the U.S. Army. As far as a list of how countries are valued by me no I don't have a list, other than the whole Iraqi thing it really wouldn't matter to me where they come from