Originally posted by gefallen_engelBut the Iraqis didn't even terrorist attack you. In fact, most of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudis, I believe.
The terrorist attacks, that is why I wouldn't sacrifice myself for them, ya I know not all of them are terrorists, but you're talking to someone who is joining the U.S. Army. As far as a list of how countries are valued by me no I don't have a list, other than the whole Iraqi thing it really wouldn't matter to me where they come from
Originally posted by Bardock42
But the Iraqis didn't even terrorist attack you. In fact, most of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudis, I believe.
they might not have attacked me personally but they attacked my country, and as a future soldier of the U.S. Army its a big deal to me.
As far as where the terrorist came from, Fifteen of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, two from the United Arab Emirates, one from Egypt, and one from Lebanon. But look at how many of our soldiers the Iraqi's and Afghani's killed since then.
Originally posted by gefallen_engelBut, again, they didn't attack your country. You attacked theirs, that's...almost...the opposite actually.
they might not have attacked me personally but they attacked my country, and as a future soldier of the U.S. Army its a big deal to me.
As far as where the terrorist came from, Fifteen of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, two from the United Arab Emirates, one from Egypt, and one from Lebanon. But look at how many of our soldiers the Iraqi's and Afghani's killed since then.
And they killed your soldiers because you went there to kill them, what in the hell did you expect?
Originally posted by Bardock42
But, again, they didn't attack your country. You attacked theirs, that's...almost...the opposite actually.And they killed your soldiers because you went there to kill them, what in the hell did you expect?
I don't see how you figure that we attacked them first, they hijacked our planes, killed thousands of our citizens, did they once apologize for their actions or try to make it right again? hell no!
we bombed their asses afterwards and then helped them! Big mistake there, we should have bombed them and walked away just like they did. and the biggest reason we still have soldiers in their countries now it to keep it from happening again.
Originally posted by gefallen_engel
I don't see how you figure that we attacked them first, they hijacked our planes, killed thousands of our citizens, did they once apologize for their actions or try to make it right again? hell no!
we bombed their asses afterwards and then helped them! Big mistake there, we should have bombed them and walked away just like they did. and the biggest reason we still have soldiers in their countries now it to keep it from happening again.
What Iraqis attacked you?
Oh jeez.
I'm confused.
The terrorists who attacked us were not Iraqis.
We freakin' invaded their country with data that was known to be faulty. We have killed tens of thousands of Iraqis. I would highly expect to be attacked by rebel miltants in Iraq.
However, Afghanistan is a different story. There are innocents there, for sure. There are also guilty.
Our problems with Iraq should go away as soon as our presence is gone. However, I don't suspect our problems with the Taliban will go away any time soon. (Isn't there a Talban presence in Iraq? If so, that could spell more trouble even after we leave.)
Originally posted by Bardock42😆
Oh, this is an excellent question, I have spent many a sleepless night considering it. But I can't quite answer it with the little information you have given, how many of the 100 000 are women and children exactly?I think I'd do it if 33 467.8 women and 15 000 5-year old children (I cound faggits as .5s and transgenders as (1.8). Now, with children it is obviously more complicated. If it is 1698 3-year olds, 17 000 + 8-year olds and rest men, I would do it, but anything less than 19 874 2-year olds and 800 women is a definite "No".
I can PM you my full list I made in case it ever came to it (better safe than sorry, eh). What are your stats?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Lemmee reiterate....HER country, I hate it here. And yes, the good old US of A had a ***** slap coming for a long time.
That's not at all what I am saying. I don't think the US deserved it. More specifically the people that did get "slapped" did not deserve it. But the US turned around and did the same...just twentyfold.
Personally I think the US is a great country. A lot of it is very amazing, and it's foundations are beautiful, but damn....it got some issues.
Originally posted by Bardock42I never said the USA "deserved" it, but dude, we are prancing around the globe, trying to impose our will upon others, what was to be expected?
That's not at all what I am saying. I don't think the US deserved it. More specifically the people that did get "slapped" did not deserve it. But the US turned around and did the same...just twentyfold.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I never said the USA "deserved" it, but dude, we are prancing around the globe, trying to impose our will upon others, what was to be expected?
Indeed.
Your logic is sensible in this matter.
I said that we were over due for a successful terrorist attack when I was a teenager. It happened less than a year later. (9/11.) Well, terrorist attacks were a little more fresh on my mind because of the OKC bombing thing.
I wish we would practice a little more isolationism and bring our shit home from all over the globe and work on securing our shit here.
Anyone remember Rudy "I am an idiot and just here because I luckily was the mayor of New York when 9/11 happened" Giuiliani getting all whiny when Ron Paul pointed out just what RJ just said and demanded an apology to roaring applause, and also how Paul ****ing pwned him a day later when he suggested him a reading list for being such an ignorant, incompetent twerp?
Good times...I like Paul, he may be a crazy constitutionalist, but he was the best candidate, no doubt.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I figured.There's no way in hell an anarchist would have a belief in a state controlled system as that directly contradicts the very idea of anarchy.
amirite?
Deductive reasoning for the win!!!!!! 😆
Yeah, I guess, though, I am more of a hopeful anarchist and a pragmatic minarchist. So, one might say I have some socialist tendencies...I just wish we didn't need them.