Spider-man and The Jedi Order

Started by Placidity39 pages

Spider-man and The Jedi Order

In the Star Wars universe, the same mutant Peter Parker exists, except he isn't Spiderman.

One day a Jedi Knight sees his amazing abilities in action and is amazed since Peter is not force sensitive at all. He decides to train him in the ways of the Jedi. Even Yoda approves after sensing that Peter is of pure heart.

Peter is too old to be trained to use the force, however his spider-sense and speed makes up for it. He is trained for 10 years in fighting with the lightsabre by Mace Windu.

After his period of training:

- He is very skilled at using the lightsabre.

- Under the guidance of Yoda, has surprisingly developed some basic force abilities such as push and pull, although his level of force manipulation is very low, comparable to a padawan's ability.

- He cannot see things before they happen like most Jedi can, and must rely on his own physical speed, agility and spider-sense.

- Has had 10 years of experience fighting and completing missions alongside Mace Windu.

. . .

Scenarios

1. If you were a member of the Jedi council, which position would you recommend Peter be promoted to?

- Jedi Knight
- Jedi Master
- Jedi Council Member
- Jedi Grand Master

2. Who out of these Jedi/Sith, could he defeat in a fight?

- 20 Storm Troopers
- Qui Gon Jin
- Darth Maul
- Darth Tyrannus
- Jango Fett
- Anakin Skywalker
- Obi Wan
- Palpatine
- Mace Windu
- Yoda

* Battle occurs in the Jedi Temple.

. . .

All Characters based on movie canon, EpI to III. Does not include any novels/books etc.

1. Jedi Knight.......if that. Movie Spider-Man was meh.
2. 20 Storm Troopers(that's it).

Now if this was 616 Spider-Man........

😐

That's a shitload of supposin.

But I think it is fair to say he could take the stormtroopers. I mean, Spider-Man could probably do it.

WTF is up with people saying movie Spider-man was shit? Did you stupid bastards watch the 1st (& 2nd) film and actually pay attention?

His speed, agility, reflexes, reaction-time, durability and strength are FAR greater than any Jedi/Sith in the movies.

He could take out any Jedi or Sith, considering he is very far away from them and they couldn't force-hold him before he can rush in and tear their ****ing heads off. Given him a lightsabre and the skills to use it only make him that much more lethal.

Edit: Though I do wonder if a flying lightsabre travelling at very fast speeds (thrown by Spider-man) would delay the Jedi or Sith for enough time for Spider-man to close the gap and attack in a longer range fight.

1. Parker is not a mutant.

2. What movie is this from?

3. What is the point of this thread?

Originally posted by Robtard
WTF is up with people saying movie Spider-man was shit? Did you stupid bastards watch the 1st (& 2nd) film and actually pay attention?

His speed, agility, reflexes, reaction-time, durability and strength are [b]FAR greater than any Jedi/Sith in the movies.

He could take out any Jedi or Sith, considering he is very far away from them and they couldn't force-hold him before he can rush in and tear their ****ing heads off. Given him a lightsabre and the skills to use it only make him that much more lethal.

Edit: Though I do wonder if a flying lightsabre travelling at very fast speeds (thrown by Spider-man) would delay the Jedi or Sith for enough time for Spider-man to close the gap and attack in a longer range fight. [/B]

He's not faster. See Qui Gon and Kenobi running from droidekas in TPM. He doesn't have better reflexes. Jedi/Sith deflect blaster bolts. That covers reaction time as well. However I will give you strength and durability. But he'd be carved by a lightsaber so mute point.

He'll never be as good as the top tier duelist no matter how hard he trains. People like Yoda, Mace, Tyranus, Sidious, Kenobi, and Anakin.

Jedi Knight, 20 CLONE troopers.

He could beat Jango Fett. Pretty comfortably.

Boba Fett would curbstomp him though. He's the Batman of Star wars and thus a God.

Man, this scenario is just to hard. It makes my head hurt. 🙁

Originally posted by Impediment
1. Parker is not a mutant.

Yes he is. In Spider-man I, it clearly shows his DNA being modified in the scene where he passes out at home after being bitten.

Originally posted by Placidity
Yes he is. In Spider-man I, it clearly shows his DNA being modified in the scene where he passes out at home after being bitten.

No. A mutant, by Marvel Universe definition, is a person who is born with the altered DNA/X gene that causes mutation, thus, granting the individual powers/abilities.

Now, I know that this is not movie canon, technically, I think that we can all agree that Peter Parker is not, in fact, a mutant. Just because his DNA was re-written in a movie sequence does not make him so.

He is "mutated", he is not a "homo superior" (mutant) by Marvel standards, though.

Originally posted by Impediment
1. Parker is not a mutant.

2. What movie is this from?

3. What is the point of this thread?


I guess the point is to compare Spider Man's powers to that of Jedi, but I think it is silly to give him force abilities.

If Placidity is trying to give Spider-Man abilities of The Force, then this thread is an infringement on the rules.

C'mon, guys, you know the rules: Movie canon only. Just what we see on screen.

Dude usually sticks to the rules, and yeah, Spidey with the force = 😂

He would die horribly after after 2. Qui-gon. cause he wouldn't know what hit him when he came up against sith force users.

Ventress, General Greivious are prime recent examples of no/inexperienced force users pwning mutliple experienced jedi knights, some even at once because the force at the time was weak and out of shape as there where no sith or real enemies at the time for the jedi knights as a whole to raise there game against.

The force at the time we're talking about Peter being trained i.e Mace and Yoda and the council was as effective as entering the mixed martial arts world championship as a yoga master lol.

Only once they got there asses months and years deep in the clone war did they start raising there game to acceptable levels again. Only the few natural uber talented within the jedi order with some previous battle experience scraped by just enough to survive during that war while most other jedi where dropping like flies because they couldn't cut the mustard and where sold a dud education. It took the clone war to occur for Anakin to even reach his potential because he was given a dud education in the force and he was the chosen one after all.

See Anakin pwning the whole jedi temple and Yoda getting Pwned by Palpatine in ROTS. Normal force users didn't have a chance against the dark side or merely people trained in dark side lightsaber skills like Grevious and Ventress. Spiderman for all his agility isn't going to survive against some of the force tricks or against lightsaber styles he's unfamiliar with especially as a non force user against a uncountered force style.

Obi-Wan beating Darth Maul is the only flaw in my logic, I mean the guy did get lucky and although i don't think i can use it but in the book said he felt he was falling to the dark side with anger the whole time during that fight so did have a tiny added bonus in that respect.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
He's not faster. See Qui Gon and Kenobi running from droidekas in TPM. He doesn't have better reflexes. Jedi/Sith deflect blaster bolts. That covers reaction time as well. However I will give you strength and durability. But he'd be carved by a lightsaber so mute point.

He'll never be as good as the top tier duelist no matter how hard he trains. People like Yoda, Mace, Tyranus, Sidious, Kenobi, and Anakin.

He does have far better reflexes, speed and agility, don't be a fool. Though he isn't faster in running away, you're right about that.

The proof is in the fight scene with Flash, he was aware enough where a flies wings went from 200 bps to less than 1. (one example)

A Jedi/Sith would never hit him with a sabre, their only chance is to lock him down with some Force ability and then go for the kill stroke.

I am gonna disagree that a Jedi/Sith would never hit him with a saber.

Originally posted by Robtard
He does have far better reflexes, speed and agility, don't be a fool. Though he isn't faster in running away, you're right about that.

The proof is in the fight scene with Flash, he was aware enough where a flies wings went from 200 bps to less than 1. (one example)

Your comparing a fly to a blaster bolt?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I am gonna disagree that a Jedi/Sith would never hit him with a saber.

Jedi/Sith are fast in the movies, but they're not fast enough compared to how Spider-man's speed, agility, reaction-time and awareness are portrayed.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Your comparing a fly to a blaster bolt?

No, I'm telling you that his abilities make the world around him slow down to the point where he can see a flies wings beat slower than 1 time per second, when they're actually going at 200+ bps, from his perspective.

That is far quicker than those laser bolts.

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YouTube video
They'd never hit him with a sabre, they'd have to Force-shit something out before he tore their heads off.