Spider-man and The Jedi Order

Started by Rogue Jedi39 pages

Originally posted by Robtard
No, I'm telling you that his abilities make the world around him slow down to the point where he can see a flies wings beat slower than 1 time per second, when they're actually going at 200+ bps.

That is far quicker than those laser bolts.

Well, my argument hinged on something from a SW novel, so bah.

BUT.....Jedi/Sith, especially the masters, are pretty darn fast. If the Goblin can hit spidey, surely they can.

Which novel? Some are canon to the films.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Which novel? Some are canon to the films.
Shadows of the Empire.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well, my argument hinged on something from a SW novel, so bah.

BUT.....Jedi/Sith, especially the masters, are pretty darn fast. If the Goblin can hit spidey, surely they can.

Letme guess, that EU Luke moving so fast he blurred thing? Either way, this is a Movie Vs as you said/know.

I belive the Goblin is supposed to be on par with Spider-man in the films. They're fast, I remember the Yoda/Dooku fight scene, Yoda was very quick; he isn't quick enough for Spider-man though, just watch that Youtube clip I posted.

Originally posted by Robtard
Letme guess, that EU Luke moving so fast he blurred thing? Either way, this is a Movie Vs as you said/know.

I belive the Goblin is supposed to be on par with Spider-man in the films. They're fast, I remember the Yoda/Dooku fight scene, Yoda was very quick; he isn't quick enough for Spider-man though, just watch that Youtube clip I posted.

Dude, I dismissed it, didnt I? Calm down.

And it was something else I was referring to.

Obi Wan versus Maul, Annie versus Obi Wan. They are so fast it's hard to follow.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Dude, I dismissed it, didnt I? Calm down.

And it was something else I was referring to.

Obi Wan versus Maul, Annie versus Obi Wan. They are so fast it's hard to follow.

Oh, go **** yourself if you're going with that angle already, no ones excited.

Not fast enough compared to the Flash fight scene.

Originally posted by Robtard
Oh, go **** yourself if you're going with that angle already, no ones excited.

Not fast enough compared to the Flash fight scene.

Coulda fooled me

Matter of opinion, dude.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Coulda fooled me

Matter of opinion, dude.

Why do you turn into a total ass when a SW character can't win and you have no means to debate he/she would? This is just a Movie Vs fight, don't take it to heart.

No, we have both films to compare, so it isn't opinion based. If the Jedi/Sith were moving as fast or faster than Spider-man, they would have been nothing but a blur; they weren't though. In Spider-man, the camera was slowed down with the exception of Peter to illustrate his super-powered speed and reaction-time. That is the purpose of that secne I posted.

Although I favour spidey still, the jedi did move at speeds approaching that fast in TPM though.
(Obi wan and Quigonn - Running away from the Droidekas)

Originally posted by Robtard
Why do you turn into a total ass when a SW character can't win and you have no means to debate he/she would? This is just a Movie Vs fight, don't take it to heart.

No, we have both films to compare, so it isn't opinion based. If the Jedi/Sith were moving as fast or faster than Spider-man, they would have been nothing but a blur; they weren't though. In Spider-man, the camera was slowed down with the exception of Peter to illustrate his super-powered speed and reaction-time. That is the purpose of that secne I posted.

All I did was say that I was gonna say something, then retracted because it is from a novel.

And when the camera slows down, spidey slows down, yes? You would have done better to post a scene when he first starts fighting muggers.

He couldn't beat Qui-Gon unless Jinn dicks around and doesn't kill him right away.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
All I did was say that I was gonna say something, then retracted because it is from a novel.

And when the camera slows down, spidey slows down, yes? You would have done better to post a scene when he first starts fighting muggers.

And I responded: "Either way, this is a Movie Vs as you said/know." Agreeing with your logic.

Are you blind? He's moving his head and looking around while Flash's punch has slowed to a crawl. That and the fly's wings and the spit-ball should make it obvious.

Originally posted by Robtard
And I responded: "Either way, this is a Movie Vs as you said/know." Agreeing with your logic.

Are you blind? He's moving his head and looking around while Flash's punch has slowed to a crawl. That and the fly's wings and the spit-ball should make it obvious.

Pancakes

And does Flash move near as fast as a Jedi/Sith? Nope. Not even close.

And the jedi speed thing seems to been some kinda special can't-be-done-all-the-time kinda ability or the Jedi'd be constant blurrs.

Spidey has his ability on tap.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

And does Flash move near as fast as a Jedi/Sith? Nope. Not even close.

Their reaction time is faster than a normal human, yes, but they aren't shown doing so anywhere near Peter's level though.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Pancakes

And does Flash move near as fast as a Jedi/Sith? Nope. Not even close.

I'd dispute that.

Apart from that time they did the speed boost thing in TPM, they move at the same physical speed as us.

Look at Obiwan against Jango, for example.

Flashs nice straight fast jab and right hands would have done fine against Obiwan.

Hell, even Jango's big, swinging, telegraphed, see-it-coming-from-50-yrs-ago-haymakers landed against Obi Wan.

Where was his speedy ninja skill then...?

Jedi only call upon the force when need be, man. Moot point anyay, because all a Jedi/Sith would have to do is force hold him while they chop away.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Jedi only call upon the force when need be, man. Moot point anyay, because all a Jedi/Sith would have to do is force hold him while they chop away.

Which I agreed to, considering the fight didn't start out face-to-face or relatively close, otherwise they'd be dead before they could Force attack.

Edit: He has some serious levels of strength, can a Force hold be countered with brute force?

How much more need was there than when he was getting his ass handed to him by Jango Fett...?

Originally posted by Robtard
Which I agreed to, considering the fight didn't start out face-to-face or relatively close, otherwise they'd be dead before they could Force attack.

Edit: He has some serious levels of strength, can a Force hold be countered with brute force?

Mhm...Hell, even if the Jedi/Sith had no saber, Parker is toast.