Originally posted by quanchi112
Konvikt wasn't a joke. You cannot demean his impact in a story and come up with an excuse for it. He tore green lanterns apart and the jla. He was just a brick just like Hulk with less feats.
Exactly, he was BRICK.
GL should have easily owned him. Firestorm suddenly forgot he could become intangible or manipulate matter. And Vixen, easily the most powerful member at that time suddenly forgot she was basically Amazo.
Originally posted by quanchi112
[BHulk can hold his own with anyone here and to me WW is the weak link. [/B]
Hulk is clearly the weak link, as:
A) He can't fly. Thor, Superman, and WW will be fighting in the air (or space) while poor Hulk will be hopping around like a grasshopper trying to get his hits in...
B) He doesn't have anywhere near the speed of the others. He's too damn slow.
C) He lacks versatility. The others have more than super-strengh.
Diana or Thor defeat/BFR Hulk while the other holds off Superman. Than they double-team Superman.
Heck, Diana nor Thor have to pay attention to Hulk at all. With their years of combat experience, they see a one-liner brick when they see one. They'll just force Superman into orbit or space while Hulk is left behind. After Superman gets his ass kicked, they'll finish off Hulk.
Or Diana can simply summon the Invisible Plane to hold off the Hulk.
Originally posted by Draco69I hear excuses. Konvikt decimated them just like Doomsday did when he showed up. Two bricks tearing into whoever got into their way.
Exactly, he was BRICK.GL should have easily owned him. Firestorm suddenly forgot he could become intangible or manipulate matter. And Vixen, easily the most powerful member at that time suddenly forgot she was basically Amazo.
Hulk is clearly the weak link, as:
A) He can't fly. Thor, Superman, and WW will be fighting in the air (or space) while poor Hulk will be hopping around like a grasshopper trying to get his hits in...
B) He doesn't have anywhere near the speed of the others. He's too damn slow.
C) He lacks versatility. The others have more than super-strengh.
Diana or Thor defeat/BFR Hulk while the other holds off Superman. Than they double-team Superman.
Heck, Diana nor Thor have to pay attention to Hulk at all. With their years of combat experience, they see a one-liner brick when they see one. They'll just force Superman into orbit or space while Hulk is left behind. After Superman gets his ass kicked, they'll finish off Hulk.
Or Diana can simply summon the Invisible Plane to hold off the Hulk.
You do not need to be able to fly. Doomsday showed he could compete with Superman in hunter prey when he tried to avoid him. Same thing goes with Hulk here. People who can fly do not dominate the Hulk because they can. That is rubbish.
Konvikt and Doomsday didn't need speed and neither does the Hulk to compete here.
Bricks have never needed versatility before to hammer through the jla, so why does it change when it's the Hulk?
I don't think it is in character to bfr the Hulk unless innocents are involved. Thor is a warrior and since this isn't the juggernaut I don't see him doing it.
WW is too busy fighting Superman. Physically she is the man/woman on the totem pole. Team 1 wins7 of ten.
Originally posted by quanchi112I don't think it is in character to bfr the Hulk unless innocents are involved. Thor is a warrior and since this isn't the juggernaut I don't see him doing it.
According, forum rules, they act in their best interest and in bloodlust.
They don't care how they do as long as their opponents are defeated.
Meaning, Hulk either gets ignored or BFR.
You're saying on BFR doesn't exist in KMC forums now...?
Originally posted by quanchi112
WW is too busy fighting Superman. Physically she is the man/woman on the totem pole. Team 1 wins7 of ten.
Either WW or Thor are capable of defeating the Hulk or battle-field removing him.
WW's lasso now has the power to steal souls or trap them within a dimension created by lasso. Hulk loses instanteneously if he comes in contact withe lasso.
Thor can simply dimension-dump him.
And as I said, WW can simply have the Invisible Plane keep the Hulk busy.
Hulk is a non-issue.
Originally posted by Draco69So they fight out of character? Does this mean Thor godblasts all the time?
According, forum rules, they act in their best interest and in bloodlust.They don't care how they do as long as their opponents are defeated.
Meaning, Hulk either gets ignored or BFR.
You're saying on BFR doesn't exist in KMC forums now...?
Either WW or Thor are capable of defeating the Hulk or battle-field removing him.
WW's lasso now has the power to steal souls or trap them within a dimension created by lasso. Hulk loses instanteneously if he comes in contact withe lasso.
Thor can simply dimension-dump him.
And as I said, WW can simply have the Invisible Plane keep the Hulk busy.
Hulk is a non-issue.
So we throw bricks right out of the window and forget the impact they have had.
I am not saying bfr doesn't exist in this forum I am saying it isnt likely to happen. I think Thor beats Hulk, but I don't see WW defeating him. I see Superman destroying WW easily and then taking on an extremely tired Thor and besting him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So they fight out of character? Does this mean Thor godblasts all the time?
Yep, under KMC guidelines, PIS doesn't exist and they are bloodlusted.
Which means they will do everything and anything to win provided it's within their knowledge.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So we throw bricks right out of the window and forget the impact they have had.
Bricks simply are not effective against the likes of Superman or WW under KMC rules.
And Hulk won't be thrown out the window. He'll be thrown into orbit.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I am not saying bfr doesn't exist in this forum I am saying it isnt likely to happen.
Because you don't want to happen. Logic and you don't go well together.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I think Thor beats Hulk, but I don't see WW defeating him.
WW would win via three ways:
A) Speedblitz.
B) Soul-steal via lasso
C) Beheading by Sword of Hephaestus which I forgot Diana has in this battle.
Diana has the Sword of Hephaestus (which will cut through Hulk like butter) and the Gauntlets of Atlas which multiply her strength by 40 times.
That's Diana's class 100+ times FORTY. Hell, if she's smart she can lend one of them to Thor and have his strength amplified by twenty.
And AGAIN, the Invisible Plane. Which you ignore. Imagine an invisible, indestructible, shafe-shifting GL construct capable of telepathy, matter-manipulation and teleportation. Oh and it can travel at FTL speeds.
Hulk would have his hands full with the Plane alone....
Originally posted by quanchi112
I see Superman destroying WW easily and then taking on an extremely tired Thor and besting him.
No, just no....
Originally posted by Draco69Pis is an excuse and I don't negate bricks by crying out pis to somehow erase the comics themselves to form an opinion based on nothing more than how I personally see a fight going down.
Yep, under KMC guidelines, PIS doesn't exist and they are bloodlusted.Which means they will do everything and anything to win provided it's within their knowledge.
Bricks simply are not effective against the likes of Superman or WW under KMC rules.
And Hulk won't be thrown out the window. He'll be thrown into orbit.
Because you don't want to happen. Logic and you don't go well together.
WW would win via three ways:
A) Speedblitz.
B) Soul-steal via lasso
C) Beheading by Sword of Hephaestus which I forgot Diana has in this battle.
Diana has the Sword of Hephaestus (which will cut through Hulk like butter) and the Gauntlets of Atlas which multiply her strength by 40 times.
That's Diana's class 100+ times FORTY. Hell, if she's smart she can lend one of them to Thor and have his strength amplified by twenty.
And AGAIN, the Invisible Plane. Which you ignore. Imagine an invisible, indestructible, shafe-shifting GL construct capable of telepathy, matter-manipulation and teleportation. Oh and it can travel at FTL speeds.
Hulk would have his hands full with the Plane alone....
No, just no....
The rules don't change the comics, brah.
So just because a few characters have been thrown into orbit a few times that magically occurs everytime against the Hulk. Get real.
Hulk has beaten a character with speed before. Glads. Next.
Hulk is too busy thunder clapping WW to be caught with the lasso here.
When has the Hulk been beheaded before?
If ww gets to amp herself to these unknown limits then Hulk gets to increase his overall power into wb level.
Yes, just yes.
Originally posted by h1a8
Does "CIS is on" mean that character's do the same stupid things that they usually do in comics?
If it's not in their nature to do, they won't do it...despite the fact that it's within their power.
For instance, Superman generally holds back when fighting. That's CIS. Superman being knocked across the street by a thrown school bus is most likely PIS, and won't happen.