Originally posted by fangirl101
I agree. If Hulks starting out strength is class 100, He'd be knocked the hell out by Wondy long before He got angry enough to even begin to approach her strength.
OP says this is Savage Hulk. So he'll be starting out far above class 100. Also though, strength =/= durability, so I don't see how you draw the conclusion that him lifting less would make him be KO'd quicker.
Superman virtually held his own against a Monitor-Armored Prime...he'd far above either combatant on team two. Classic Thor or Wondy.
Originally posted by Enyalus
OP says this is Savage Hulk. So he'll be starting out far above class 100. Also though, strength =/= durability, so I don't see how you draw the conclusion that him lifting less would make him be KO'd quicker.Superman virtually held his own against a Monitor-Armored Prime...he'd far above either combatant on team two. Classic Thor or Wondy.
Originally posted by EnyalusJust leafed through it. Superman was trying to talk to him and restrain him and when Prime wanted to get him off of him he blew right through his hand with heatvision. Seems like a very cool issue and this story story seems so much better than fc up to issue 3 anyways.
Today, when FC: Lo3W #3 came out. Prime blows a hole through Supes' hand with his HV, and flash-freezes him. But prior to that, Supes put him in a hold and goes toe-to-toe with him pretty fairly.
People also need to factor in the element of teamwork. Something many fail to do on this forum.
Hulk is not a team-player. Especially Savage Hulk. Superman won't be able to form a strategy at all with him.
WW and Thor on the other hand are trained warriors. They'll instantly have a rapport and will out-tactic the hell out of their opposition.
Originally posted by Draco69When they are on a team we don't have to argue who breaks rank and who doesn't.
People also need to factor in the element of teamwork. Something many fail to do on this forum.Hulk is not a team-player. Especially Savage Hulk. Superman won't be able to form a strategy at all with him.
WW and Thor on the other hand are trained warriors. They'll instantly have a rapport and will out-tactic the hell out of their opposition.
Originally posted by quanchi112
When they are on a team we don't have to argue who breaks rank and who doesn't.
When they're on a team, they work together to defeat their opponents.
Superman would have benefited more if he had a teammate like the Invisible Woman or Green Lantern instead of a flightless lummox who communicates with grunts.
WW and Thor on the other hand can effectively create a strategy to handle their opponents. Especially with their warrior experience.
Originally posted by Draco69
People also need to factor in the element of teamwork. Something many fail to do on this forum.Hulk is not a team-player. Especially Savage Hulk. Superman won't be able to form a strategy at all with him.
WW and Thor on the other hand are trained warriors. They'll instantly have a rapport and will out-tactic the hell out of their opposition.
Who cares when Hulk gets BFR....
Originally posted by Draco69
When they're on a team, they work together to defeat their opponents.Superman would have benefited more if he had a teammate like the Invisible Woman or Green Lantern instead of a flightless lummox who communicates with grunts.
WW and Thor on the other hand can effectively create a strategy to handle their opponents. Especially with their warrior experience.
Originally posted by Draco69Not when superman and Hulk are all over them. Strategies tend to go out the window when Hulk is raging.
When they're on a team, they work together to defeat their opponents.Superman would have benefited more if he had a teammate like the Invisible Woman or Green Lantern instead of a flightless lummox who communicates with grunts.
WW and Thor on the other hand can effectively create a strategy to handle their opponents. Especially with their warrior experience.
Originally posted by Anti-MonitorThat isn't as easy as you make it sound.
Who cares when Hulk gets BFR....
Originally posted by Zack FairWhich doesn't apply here due to the fact they all lost their powers.
When he beat the crap out of a powerless teenager? When he smashed him through Rao(Eventhough E2 Supes helped him)...hmm when he was hmm punched by Prime ...or when a near powerless Prime blasted HV through him?😕
Originally posted by quanchi112
Not when superman and Hulk are all over them. Strategies tend to go out the window when Hulk is raging. That isn't as easy as you make it sound.
Superman will likely go one-on-one with either Thor or WW. It really doesn't matter since both can match him.
Hulk will be left on the ground. Alone. While the others are fighting against Superman in the air. And eventually orbit.
Thor can BFR Hulk with a dimensional portal.
WW can lasso him and throw him into space.
Originally posted by Draco69Both characters are likely to slug it out though. If it were this easy Konvikt would have been a complete joke, but he wasn't and neither would the Hulk.
Superman will likely go one-on-one with either Thor or WW. It really doesn't matter since both can match him.Hulk will be left on the ground. Alone. While the others are fighting against Superman in the air. And eventually orbit.
Thor can BFR Hulk with a dimensional portal.
WW can lasso him and throw him into space.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Both characters are likely to slug it out though. If it were this easy Konvikt would have been a complete joke, but he wasn't and neither would the Hulk.
Konvict WAS a joke.
The entire JLA jobbed to him to make the Trinity look good.
Hulk is just a lummox who simply can't keep up with the others. He either get's speedblitzed or BFR or hit with a Godblast or gets his soul stolen by the lasso...
Hell, Diana can just have her Invisible Plane battle the Hulk while they double-team Superman.
I'd like to see the Hulk 'smash' an invisible, shape-shifting, faster than light, artifical intelligence that dismembered Satan himself....
Originally posted by Draco69Konvikt wasn't a joke. You cannot demean his impact in a story and come up with an excuse for it. He tore green lanterns apart and the jla. He was just a brick just like Hulk with less feats.
Konvict WAS a joke.The entire JLA jobbed to him to make the Trinity look good.
Hulk is just a lummox who simply can't keep up with the others. He either get's speedblitzed or BFR or hit with a Godblast or gets his soul stolen by the lasso...
Hell, Diana can just have her Invisible Plane battle the Hulk while they double-team Superman.
I'd like to see the Hulk 'smash' an invisible, shape-shifting, faster than light, artifical intelligence that dismembered Satan himself....
Hulk can hold his own with anyone here and to me WW is the weak link.