Byakuya vs. Sesshomaru

Started by LDHZenkai5 pages
LDHZenkai Evergreen Oldboy

Originally posted by KingD19
If I'm not mistaken, all those attacks he does with Tokijin, are impossible to do....without Tokijin.

Nope. The blue dragon thing is a technique not an ability specific to that sword. it's called Soryuha. You only see it in the movie which is why you never see him do it with Bakusaiga. These are bakusaigas specific powers.
Decomposition: Bakusaiga appears to manifest a form of corrosive wave attack, an interesting manifestation of Sesshomaru's own power of corrosive poisoning as a sword attack. Miroku comments that Naraku would suffer the same affliction should he absorb any demon wounded by Bakusaiga. If there are any significant limits to the effects of the corrosive power they are not known - even the fully transformed body of Naraku was unable to stop or quench the effect and only avoided it by abandoning pieces to destruction. Only the Shikon no Tama itself withstood any Bakusaiga attack, and it appeared to be immune to essentially all demonic attacks of any nature.
Destructive Wave: The Bakusaiga's destructive wave is seen only once in the Manga, in Chapter 523 when Sesshomaru easily dispatches thousands of demons mounted against him in order to delay his arrival at another battle. If there is an upper limit to the strength of this wave it is not known.

niduin Son of the King

ok here is the fight against the guy that makes up to 5 clones http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR5geFBxsTw

start it at about 1:50, show me where sesshomaru has ever gone that fast

LDHZenkai Evergreen Oldboy

Originally posted by niduin
ok here is the fight against the guy that makes up to 5 clones http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR5geFBxsTw

start it at about 1:50, show me where sesshomaru has ever gone that fast


He's moved fast enough to deflect multiple bullets back at the guys firing at him. And that was in an extremely weakened state. Plus theres not any videos of him at full power. But if thats not fast enough I could find one of him with afterimages. Which one do you want? Just as a point of reference rifles from the early 1800 had bullet speeds of about 1800 feet per second, he deflects all of them by swinging his hand and unleashing his energy whip thing.

KingD19 Shai-Gen's Enigmatic Wong

Well, if someone shot at you, you could put you hand in the way of your face before the bullet hits, and that whip thing of his can move at weird angles since it's made of energy, I'm sure it's just as mentally driven as it is with a flick of his wrist.

niduin Son of the King

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
He's moved fast enough to deflect multiple bullets back at the guys firing at him. And that was in an extremely weakened state. Plus theres not any videos of him at full power. But if thats not fast enough I could find one of him with afterimages. Which one do you want? Just as a point of reference rifles from the early 1800 had bullet speeds of about 1800 feet per second, he deflects all of them by swinging his hand and unleashing his energy whip thing.
yeah blockng some bulles, making it so you are 5 people at once, wich one sounds more impresive? and if you say the bullets im leaving and will never come back....ok probably not true, and the after image thing still doesnt prove anything, and just because you say that sesshomaru can do the same thing i he ran in circles doesnt make it true, you have to prove that he can do the same thing, so far NOTHING you have said is nearly as impresive as far as speed goes

LDHZenkai Evergreen Oldboy

Originally posted by niduin
yeah blockng some bulles, making it so you are 5 people at once, wich one sounds more impresive? and if you say the bullets im leaving and will never come back....ok probably not true, and the after image thing still doesnt prove anything, and just because you say that sesshomaru can do the same thing i he ran in circles doesnt make it true, you have to prove that he can do the same thing, so far NOTHING you have said is nearly as impresive as far as speed goes

OMG you are so funny. You don't even realize the video you posted isn't even of Bakuya making five clones of himself? And at no point in the video were there any speed feats that sesshomaru hasn't done. Did you even watch the video you posted or just post it? The dude making the 5 clones in the video isn't even doing it because he's fast he's using a technique to do it. The only thing you've proven is that Byakuya moves at the same speed as Sesshomaru......good job at helping me out though. Now maybe you just posted the wrong video so i'll give you a chance to post a diff one. This time if you could actually post a video of what you're talking about though that would be awesome.

KingD19 Shai-Gen's Enigmatic Wong

No dude, the technique is speed, he just gave it a name. Sonido is the Arrancar/Hollow/Espada, equivalent to Shunpo/Flash Steps. He's just one of the fastest users of it, so fast that he appeared in 5 places at once, and his clones actually seeemed real, with the capability to be cut and etc...

And what we're saying is, if Byakuya is fast enough to beat that, with his tendons severed no less, he's not going to lose to Sesshomaru.

LDHZenkai Evergreen Oldboy

Originally posted by KingD19
No dude, the technique is speed, he just gave it a name. Sonido is the Arrancar/Hollow/Espada, equivalent to Shunpo/Flash Steps. He's just one of the fastest users of it, so fast that he appeared in 5 places at once, and his clones actually seeemed real, with the capability to be cut and etc...

And what we're saying is, if Byakuya is fast enough to beat that, with his tendons severed no less, he's not going to lose to Sesshomaru.


in the video posted he says it's more of a magic trick. how does that equate to it's a speed move? If they were just after images you couldn't cut them and they wouldn't bleed. Unless in that particular fight Bleach completely changed it's rules of the universe and added a new one just for that guy for that fight. Which I doubt.

niduin Son of the King

when did i ever say that byakuya could do the clone thing i said that he defeated the guy that did the clone thing, and also the technique is a way to move fast its the exact thing as flash step just faster. also what about his bankai? im prety sure that would kill sesshomaru, but im open to anything

just a side note: sesshomaru is a cooler chr imo byakuya is....wait no they are the EXACT same character i was just thinking about how each of them act and they both are infinitely arrogant, think they are all powerful, dont use their full power unless they need to (for pride) wait sesshomaru has a quality thats closer to kenpachi the desire to fight strong aponents ok thats why i like him more i knew there was something

KingD19 Shai-Gen's Enigmatic Wong

He said it's similar to a magic trick in that it confuses his opponents, not in how it's performed, it's just him moving extremely fast, and the clones are lifelike. And you seriously can't think Sesshomaru can take his bankai? If Tetsaiga can lop off his arm in his demon dog form, I think Byaku's bankai will take him out.

niduin Son of the King

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
in the video posted he says it's more of a magic trick. how does that equate to it's a speed move? If they were just after images you couldn't cut them and they wouldn't bleed. Unless in that particular fight Bleach completely changed it's rules of the universe and added a new one just for that guy for that fight. Which I doubt.
THEY ARE NOT AFTER IMAGES, they are actually him, and the reson its more like a magic trick is because it looks like he cloned himself its a magic trick in the same sence as any card trick is a magic trick (the hand being quicker than the eye)he isnt saying its magic or a spell he is just saying its mysterious like a magic trick

LDHZenkai Evergreen Oldboy

Originally posted by niduin
THEY ARE NOT AFTER IMAGES, they are actually him, and the reson its more like a magic trick is because it looks like he cloned himself its a magic trick in the same sence as any card trick is a magic trick (the hand being quicker than the eye)he isnt saying its magic or a spell he is just saying its mysterious like a magic trick

you're the one who said they were afterimages. And said it was because he was so fast. I said they weren't. So now you're agreeing with me but arguing with me at the same time. If they're clones then the video you posted shows him using the same speed as Sesshomaru. or explain to me how you can interpret it otherwise.

niduin Son of the King

ok sorry if im not being clear, ive never been good with words. he moves so fast you dont see him leave and by the time your eye adjusts to him being gone he is back in the same spot he does this so exact that he can control himself doing it up to 5 times...i guess that is kind of like an after image, but when i think image i think fake and it isnt fake he is actually there and, for all intents and purposes, in 4 other places as well, thats what i meant by its not an image.

and will you answer me how sesshomaru can get out of his bankai ?

KingD19 Shai-Gen's Enigmatic Wong

Basically, he's moving between 5 points so fast, it looks like he's 5 people at once, and he's moving so fast, it looks like he isn't moving at all.

LDHZenkai Evergreen Oldboy

Originally posted by niduin
ok sorry if im not being clear, ive never been good with words. he moves so fast you dont see him leave and by the time your eye adjusts to him being gone he is back in the same spot he does this so exact that he can control himself doing it up to 5 times...i guess that is kind of like an after image, but when i think image i think fake and it isnt fake he is actually there and, for all intents and purposes, in 4 other places as well, thats what i meant by its not an image.

and will you answer me how sesshomaru can get out of his bankai ?


As far as getting out of his bankai, his bankai is just a ton of swords that surround someone and then impale them right? Well I think he has like 3 different ways of releasing it but they're all about the same. Either way, so far theres not been any attack that I can think of that can penetrate sesshomarus aura + energy power he can expel from his weapon. Also, in the battle where he gets his new sword he did it by instantly regenerating an entire arm and all of his wounds. This was because he had finally become at once with himself and thus become the most powerful Yokai to exist (surpassing his father who was one of the most powerful, if not the most powerful). Now the question is is Sesshomaru powerful enough to reflect Byakuya Bankai with his own power. I would assume so since in Bleach Byakuya is a shinigami. Which is just a death deity. Sesshomaru has shown in the past that things from the underworld are as effective against him as any other being in the living world. Sesshomaru does defeat the master of hell in the manga which i would imagine is a more powerful deity than shinigami.

KingD19 Shai-Gen's Enigmatic Wong

Those universes operate on different power scales, and it should be obvious that Bleach is on a higer tier, and less of the boys look like strong, handsome, women.

LDHZenkai Evergreen Oldboy

Originally posted by KingD19
Those universes operate on different power scales, and it should be obvious that Bleach is on a higer tier, and less of the boys look like strong, handsome, women.

lol. sesshi is a little feminine. They don't really operate on a lower power level tbh. It's just the truly powerful beings died before we even meet up with Inuyasha. Sesshomaru is the only Daiyokai left. And his power was enough to beat the guy who runs hell. Pretty impressive to me. It's 5am though and i haven't slept yet so im going to go pass out.

niduin Son of the King

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
As far as getting out of his bankai, his bankai is just a ton of swords that surround someone and then impale them right? Well I think he has like 3 different ways of releasing it but they're all about the same. Either way, so far theres not been any attack that I can think of that can penetrate sesshomarus aura + energy power he can expel from his weapon. Also, in the battle where he gets his new sword he did it by instantly regenerating an entire arm and all of his wounds. This was because he had finally become at once with himself and thus become the most powerful Yokai to exist (surpassing his father who was one of the most powerful, if not the most powerful). Now the question is is Sesshomaru powerful enough to reflect Byakuya Bankai with his own power. I would assume so since in Bleach Byakuya is a shinigami. Which is just a death deity. Sesshomaru has shown in the past that things from the underworld are as effective against him as any other being in the living world. Sesshomaru does defeat the master of hell in the manga which i would imagine is a more powerful deity than shinigami.
you cant do that, just because he is the ruller of hell does not mean he is more powerful than byakuya, by that logic sesshomaru should not have beet him. but im done with this, cuz there is nothing i can say about the aura there is no proof whatsoever that byakuya has enough force to penetrate it, tho i think he can its obviouse to me that byakuya is on a completely different degre of power, but like i said no way to prove it. this does not mean i concede to your victory, since there is no proof to the contrary either, there just isnt enough info either way. so its a tie i guess..... 🙁

KingD19 Shai-Gen's Enigmatic Wong

NO, BYAKUYA WINS BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WEAR EYELINER!!!!!!!

XanatosForever Steward of RP

Yes, because we all know that somehow, somewhere in the Fuedal Era, Sesshomaru unlocked the secrets to making mascara 🙄