Originally posted by leonheartmm
dude new genesis wud RAPE asgard! even if you got rune king thor and the full powered destroyed and loki AND the frost giants!
Put down the pipe man. RKT, Surtur with Twilight and Ymir would shit stomp anybody on the NG team. I didn't think Surtur and Ymir were allowed in this fight. HOwever, with them added to the mix asgard takes it.
^not against the source/highfather they cant. you have to understand, the strongest like rune kin thor or destroyer might be able to take on people like orion but there are MANY new gods and their power levels are FAR more consistant and uniform than asgardians, and they have the highfather and the motherboxes, so really, asgard doesnt stand a chance.
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeThat's how he rolls.
Quan, honestly you should try to be more fair. You use ABC logic against DC and then you use ABC in favour ofMarvel.
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeI just don't see why people always think losing to Superman is a low showing. I mean, how many top-tiers does the guy have to beat for people to realize his power is on a level of it's own?
Superman is similar to Thanos, both are more or less plot devices.
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeI agree.
And Highfather is at the very LEAST = Odin
What I disagree with is that we can apparently use one time deals from the Asgardians (ie. galaxy busting, empowering the destroyer with all of Asgard, etc.) - but we can't do the same with New Genesis? I guess it's good to handicap NG though. If they were allowed access to all their tech, Asgard would be shitstomped.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
^not against the source/highfather they cant. you have to understand, the strongest like rune kin thor or destroyer might be able to take on people like orion but there are MANY new gods and their power levels are FAR more consistant and uniform than asgardians, and they have the highfather and the motherboxes, so really, asgard doesnt stand a chance.
Are you serious or another NG super wanker? Did I just hear you say RKT, Surtur with twilight MIGHT be able to take on Orion.... Orion with get wtf pwned by either. I guess I should make up a thread putting Orion against RKT and Surtur and see how that comes out. You my friend have smoked one too many bong ripes. RKT dominates every on the NG team imo
Originally posted by Galan007
That's how he rolls.I just don't see why people always think losing to Superman is a low showing. I mean, how many top-tiers does the guy have to beat for people to realize his power is on a level of it's own?
I agree.
What I disagree with is that we can apparently use one time deals from the Asgardians (ie. galaxy busting, empowering the destroyer with all of Asgard, etc.) - but we can't do the same with New Genesis.
Galan do you agree wth LEO that RKT and Surtur with twilight might be able to beat Orion.... Lastly, you think Highfather takes a majority from RKT or Surtur with twilight or anybody empowering the destroyer armor?
Originally posted by leonheartmm
^not against the source/highfather they cant. you have to understand, the strongest like rune kin thor or destroyer might be able to take on people like orion but there are MANY new gods and their power levels are FAR more consistant and uniform than asgardians, and they have the highfather and the motherboxes, so really, asgard doesnt stand a chance.
jawdrop hysterical
Originally posted by AllanklesSurtur's sword by itself is made of Galaxy he killed 😐
Only Odin has been mentioned as being able to destroy galaxies from Asgard and truthfully no-name New Genesians can create universes of their own.Point is they are big enough that entire universes appear as miniature, a planets inhabitants: microscopic.
Odin sent ripples throughout all of reality with one of his fights.
Also no-name NG's get beat by Superman, GLs, and any number of other top tiers.
Not saying that makes them low showing but context is a big thing when you are dealing with the New Gods.
On paper and through implied things any number of 4th Worlders should be able to destroy countless Universes. The problem those levels are often only implied or talked about, and thus we never know the true scope of it.
Even the boomtubes themselves are inconsistent. The they're larger then planets argument is also very flawed as no one knows the true implications of Orion's talk with Superman. Was it just their view of the Universe that got changed or did they actually become bigger.
Considering how many ever X amount of showing you want to go to this often becomes stupid. Just look at Doomsday, Cyborg Superman, Superman, etc, etc. Who have all traveled to Apokolips under their own power yet have never been shown to shrink in accordance.
As to creating their own Universes show me where they can create Universes on panel then we'll talk 🙂
Originally posted by NewjakEven the boomtubes themselves are inconsistent. The they're larger then planets argument is also very flawed as no one knows the true implications of Orion's talk with Superman. Was it just their view of the Universe that got changed or did they actually become bigger
We know the implications because we saw it on panel. S'Ivaa was a collosal being able to rip apart the cosmos from the fourth world, Orion and Supes were able to stop him but only because Orion was in his true form and because Supes had used a boomtube.
Originally posted by Newjak
Considering how many ever X amount of showing you want to go to this often becomes stupid. Just look at Doomsday, Cyborg Superman, Superman, etc, etc. Who have all traveled to Apokolips under their own power yet have never been shown to shrink in accordance.
Again, there's been evidence of the New God's size. In one story, supergirl appeared the size of an insect next to the New Gods. Anything else is just inconsistent. No one shrinks in the 4th world they are simply smaller than the New Gods, a boomtube adjust their size accordingly.
Originally posted by Newjak
As to creating their own Universes show me where they can create Universes on panel then we'll talk 🙂
Miracle was shown observing the New Gods and he observed some reflecting on their godhood, while others created their own twisted universes.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Are you serious or another NG super wanker? Did I just hear you say RKT, Surtur with twilight MIGHT be able to take on Orion.... Orion with get wtf pwned by either. I guess I should make up a thread putting Orion against RKT and Surtur and see how that comes out. You my friend have smoked one too many bong ripes. RKT dominates every on the NG team imo
Nah, i'd Xor against RKT. Xor (sp?) is high end Spectre/5-d imp level. If you think RKT can take that, then you're clearly smoking something. And if so, puff, puff pass!
Originally posted by Wild ShadowIt was posted like 5 times this week http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t502531.html
post a link so we can see.