Originally posted by Galan007
I just don't see why people always think losing to Superman is a low showing. I mean, how many top-tiers does the guy have to beat for people to realize his power is on a level of it's own?
I don't think that loosing to Superman is an low showing, on the contrary.
I think Superman is an great char, maybe even the greatest (right behind Batman 😛 ). He is on par with every enemy he has to be, that's how DC treats him.
What a lot people won't realise or accept is the fact that Superman is the embodiment of an superhero who can do everything if he has to, he is Superman after all.
What a lot people can't accept is, that he is the first and maybe the most powerful of them all, that he indeed can accomplish everything.
What a lot of people do, when they choose an powerful Superheroe as their most fav, is comparing him to superman, which is just wrong, because they can't hope to win.
This leads all to hate, everyone wants his/her fav char to be the best, the greatest of all. But this can't happen, because Superman was there before, if we like it or not.
Yes he has low showings, else he and his comics would be pretty boring, but this is used by all haters to "prove" that he is weak, which is just wrong.
They dismiss the fact that he stood up to every universal/multiversal/+ challange out there because of what he is, an icon.
In Forum fights one shouldn't use the low showings, especially not of an char with such an long and rich history, that happend only to make an comic entertaining. In Forum fights we should use the chars to their best, and there Superman is an cosmic being.
I like Batman more. I would like to be more like Superman, not his powers, but his characteristics but Batman is much much cooler in my eyes. BUT I have no problem admitting Supermans superiority.
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Originally posted by AllanklesName these big hitters. I want to hear some names here. Odin, Loki, Thor, Enchantress,Balder, Thor girl, and the destroyer. Name me some characters who can hang with these good old boys.
New Genesis has more big hitters, face facts, unless you want to add Surtur and Ymir to the equation and they are not even from Asgard mostly the dimension that surrounds it. Or even Brb or Hercules these guys are not part of Asgard proper.Miracle can neutralize the soul in the Destroyer with his knowledge of the ALE. Takion can also directly manipulate the soul in the destroyer.
Show me Takion doing some soul tampering along the lines to suggest he can shut down the destroyer very easily.
Miracle is really getting the ale here?
Originally posted by cloud102Like restarting the universe?
If New Gods get the 7 Imperishable treasures, Worlogog, Father Box's, or even a Geneis Box, they can effect things on a universal or multiversal level.
Originally posted by AllanklesFalse.
I meant equipment when I used the word tech, there's nothing to be confused about with the destroyer.Scott Free or Takion would easily neutralize such a device.
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeNo, no, no. Surfer is a plot device and he goes down hard to Thanos. Supes is nowhere near as powerful as say Monarch. He can however defeat Ds. Izaya is a joke compared to Odin. A joke I say.
Quan, honestly you should try to be more fair. You use ABC logic against DC and then you use ABC in favour ofMarvel.Superman is similar to Thanos, both are more or less plot devices.
And Highfather is at the very LEAST = Odin
Originally posted by cloud102And? What success have they had with these items?
Galaxies? New Gods are capable of creating weapons that can effect the UNIVERSE. Worlogog, Geneisis Box, Xor, etc...
Originally posted by leonheartmmHave you read any Thor books?
dude new genesis wud RAPE asgard! even if you got rune king thor and the full powered destroyed and loki AND the frost giants!
Originally posted by TricksterPriestNo, it isn't obvious because it isn't true. Odin on his own in the destroyer armor could lay waste to new genesis imo. Doomsday was all that was needed for apokolips. So a brutish brick with no brain activity whatsoever can topple an entire planet of new gods so what do you think a guy who can effect the mutliverse can do to them in his destroyer armor?
There are countless scenarios that would enable a New Gods win. And countless characters and weapons that have to be banned to make it a fair fight.THE POINT SHOULD BE OBVIOUS. duryes
Genesis Box. Universe go boom.
Sun crusher. Boom.
Worlogog. Boom.
Morrow cube. Boom.
Brimstone army. Boom.
Infinite parademon army. Boom.
Boomtube/Doomtube. Boom.
Omega Effect sent into the past. Boom.
Energy Seeds. Boom
Mortioccus. Boom.
And Doomsday is capable of beating almost anyone in Asgard. And when he was on Apokolips, oh look, there's Henshaw. 😛
Originally posted by TricksterPriestHow does resetting the universe mean ng wins? Doomsday would get annihilated by Odin and Thor beat him in the crossover by the by.
Genesis Box. Universe go boom.
Sun crusher. Boom.
Worlogog. Boom.
Morrow cube. Boom.
Brimstone army. Boom.
Infinite parademon army. Boom.
Boomtube/Doomtube. Boom.
Omega Effect sent into the past. Boom.
Energy Seeds. Boom
Mortioccus. Boom.And Doomsday is capable of beating almost anyone in Asgard. And when he was on Apokolips, oh look, there's Henshaw. 😛