Originally posted by TricksterPriestuniverse go boom = New Gods go boom too...unless they BFR themselves...which = loss
Genesis Box. Universe go boom.
Sun crusher. Boom.
Worlogog. Boom.
Morrow cube. Boom.
Brimstone army. Boom.
Infinite parademon army. Boom.
Boomtube/Doomtube. Boom.
Omega Effect sent into the past. Boom.
Energy Seeds. Boom
Mortioccus. Boom.And Doomsday is capable of beating almost anyone in Asgard. And when he was on Apokolips, oh look, there's Henshaw. 😛
Originally posted by cloud102I always get the idea that most of these threads are designed to be war-type scenarios without one side having access to something rarely used that is kind of cheap though for arguments sake. I mean it isn't like the new gods use this stuff when facing bigger than characters such as Yuga Khan and Infinity Man.
That's why i said IF they have access to their weapons. Plus they have access to more than one uber weapon.
This is bullshit. You're going to allow the Asgardians to use the destroyer, Cask of ancient winters, the Odinsword and other things, but the new gods don't have any of their super weapons? Hell, you wanted to use the 2000ft Destroyer.
That's the height of hypocrisy, Quan.
Infinity Man gets manhandled by Darkseid and is an ally of New Genesis. Not applicable.
Yuga Khan was able to depower ALL the new gods and pierce the Source Wall by sheer power. Again, Not applicable. Especially because he could probably solo Asgard.
And let's not forget that in any thread like this, Metron is always a factor. And we saw what kind of crazy things he can come up with if motivated. And considering he's a hired gun, it's easily within the bounds of possibility that he would aid New Genesis. Darkseid isn't the only one who's contracted him out, Highfather's made use of his inventions as well.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestwhere in my scenario did I allow hiring outsiders? you can't.
And let's not forget that in any thread like this, Metron is always a factor. And we saw what kind of crazy things he can come up with if motivated. And considering he's a hired gun, it's easily within the bounds of possibility that he would aid New Genesis. Darkseid isn't the only one who's contracted him out, Highfather's made use of his inventions as well.
Originally posted by Darth MacabreDid I say Metron cannot be used? as long as he can be considered a resident of New Genesis, he is allowed.
So now you're taking Metron away from New Genesis? Sounds like this is just a farce, with the deck stacked towards Asgard.
I just said you can't recruit outsiders...or else Thor could recruit Doctor Strange, Reed, Surfer, etc.
Originally posted by Starscream MTechnically in the opening post, you said New gods versus Norse gods, so that should mean all New gods are allowed in the fight.
Did I say Metron cannot be used? as long as he can be considered a resident of New Genesis, he is allowed.I just said you can't recruit outsiders...or else Thor could recruit Doctor Strange, Reed, Surfer, etc.
To the OP: While Metron himself has said he is something other than New God, he is not an outsider. He has worked for Apokolips and New Genesis before. Sometimes as a mercenary, sometimes for intellectual curiosity, and sometimes because he's an inscrutable bastard.
Nonetheless, he is a new god affiliate and tied directly into their mythos. Not to mention he's been on and worked for both New Genesis and Apokolips enough to be considered a citizen of both. 😛
New Genesis has one thing that Apokolips does not. "The Wall." The one that the Unifriend writes on. And the Wonder Staff that goes with it.
Originally posted by cloud102I'm saying even when they face bigger threats it isn't like they go grab a genesis box and end the universe. Ds was at a total loss when dealing with Doomsday for crying out loud.
They don't use weapons in wars? They have used them in the past. It's not like Orion uses some, but we ARE talking about EVERYONE in New Genesis. It's not like the creator of the weapons (Himon) will not use them, because they have.