Lord Lucien
4,000, 'ccording to Wookiee. Ulic Qel Droma.
Wookiepedia: Dark Reaper😐
The Dark Reaper was a superweapon created during the Great Hyperspace War (5,000 BBY).
It's the first ****ing line.
Lord LucienI lol'd fo' real.
Goddamn it, the hell's wrong with my reading abilities lately. All that Incanus' posting has destroyed my Frontal Readex. Or something. F*ck if I know.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Super-mega-unblockabible-Drain says she does own him. excellent
Did she breach their Force shields? Were they able to even attempt a defense?
More importantly: they were relatively no-name Jedi with no knowledge of the dark side. Dooku is among the most powerful Sith and Jedi ever.
Hell, Nihilus stripped her. And she didn't die.
Also, killing 12 sith at once and force-pushing the surviving council around like her bitches is pretty much > anything Dooku's done.
You really don't want to get into an assessment of Dooku's skill.
Originally posted by Gideon
I do not see Kreia "owning" Dooku.But looking back on it, I don't see Dooku surviving this fight at all.
Awesome. I doubt my shitty arguments helped you see the light (just went back to page one and damn).
And to be fair Gideon, they weren't exactly no name jedi. They WERE on the Jedi council.
I meant in the grand scheme of things. Dooku is, by narration and accolade, considered a god in any era. Those three? Not so much.
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Anyway, it's just common sense. I personally believe that Malak and Dooku are on the same plateau, with Dooku holding a noticeable advantage.
Kreia is what we call overkill. They'll get something of a fight, but nothing too long or particularly cumbersome.
Did she breach their Force shields? Were they able to even attempt a defense?
We don't know, though given that they couldn't stop her from shoving them around, its doubtful they would have stood.
And they have pre-cog, it would be stupid to say they wouldn't have even attempted to stop her.
More importantly: they were relatively no-name Jedi with no knowledge of the dark side. Dooku is among the most powerful Sith and Jedi ever.
Dooku doesn't have the power of 3 jedi masters combined.
Hell, Nihilus stripped her. And she didn't die.
He severed her, its a different thing. And losing to Nililus isn't something you can be ashamed of.
You really don't want to get into an assessment of Dooku's skill.
Has he ever overpowered 12 people at once?
Originally posted by Nephthys
We don't know, though given that they couldn't stop her from shoving them around, its doubtful they would have stood.
You don't know?
That's all I need. Thanks.
And they have pre-cog, it would be stupid to say they wouldn't have even attempted to stop her.
Tell that to every Jedi who found themselves on the wrong end of a gun when some guy in a hood said "Execute Order Sixty-six."
Didn't see that coming.
Dooku doesn't have the power of 3 jedi masters combined.
I was waiting for you to say that.
Where is your proof?
He severed her, its a different thing. And losing to Nililus isn't something you can be ashamed of.
Is it?
And here all this time I was operating under the impression that what Kreia did and Nihilus did was the same thing.
Has he ever overpowered 12 people at once?
Has Kreia brought Asajj Ventress to her knees by lifting a finger? Has she survived a duel with Yoda? Has she outsparred General Grievous? Has she overpowered Sora Bulq? Has she telekinetically throttled someone while relieving them of their lightsaber?
You don't know?That's all I need. Thanks.
We also don't know whether there a defence for it, other than Quey'tek.
Tell that to every Jedi who found themselves on the wrong end of a gun when some guy in a hood said "Execute Order Sixty-six."Didn't see that coming.
Ever jedi in that scenario wasn't standing directly in front of their attacker with their lightsaber drawn as their killer announced they were going to kill them.
I was waiting for you to say that.Where is your proof?
Dooku's never overpowered 3 jedi masters at once. He's overcome the defences of one, but not even 2. He's also never demonstrated power on the maginitude of 3 masters combined before either. But if you have some proof that he has..
Is it?And here all this time I was operating under the impression that what Kreia did and Nihilus did was the same thing.
Nope, what Kreia did was create an 'emptiness' in the force, to utterly suck it out of people, cutting them off from life itself in the process. Nihilus couldn't have done that becuase a) Kreia survived and b) Regained the force in time and in fact showed small ability to still use the force dircetly after.
Has Kreia brought Asajj Ventress to her knees by lifting a finger? Has she survived a duel with Yoda? Has she outsparred General Grievous? Has she overpowered Sora Bulq? Has she telekinetically throttled someone while relieving them of their lightsaber?
None of that even comes close to the power needed to overcome 12 people at once. Even Bane couldn't do the same with six.
Originally posted by Nephthys
No, she was attacking them all at once, so she would have to split her attack into thirds.Also, Screaw u Escape!
Ok, so Nihilus can overpower any force user in history. I doubt that any single force user has the power of 100 jedi. They were each individually too weak to fight off the attack, unless you're saying they used some kind of battle meld -putting their powers together- to fight off the attack.
GideonWhy?
Anyway, it's just common sense. I personally believe that Malak and Dooku are on the same plateau, with Dooku holding a noticeable advantage.
GideonTo be fair, she did push Vrook to the ground twice, and they were all standing there with their lightsabers at the ready. One would assume that Vrook, at the least, would have had some defense erected at least after the first push.
Did she breach their Force shields? Were they able to even attempt a defense?