Pre Retcon Beyonder vs

Originally posted by SouthSpawn
GEB, MJJ, Mr. Mxy, Franklin Richards, Dr. Fate, Dr. Strange, LT, Spectre,
Anti-Monitor, Molecule Man, The Ultimator, HOM Wonda

These guys alone could beat Pre Retcon Beyonder.

It seems as everyone likes to go by feats.

Mr. Mxy feats are just as good as the Beyonder's IMO.
When you can jump out of the comic book and talk to the writers.
IMO, that probably means you are capable of doing anything you want.

I love it how everyone thinks that the Beyonder is like GOD or something like that, BUT in looking at things he is NOT GOD.

He may be outside of the "Mainstream" universe, but these guys I mention abover working together would not lose to Beyonder.

It wouldn't be a one shot and these guys are gone.
If that was the case, then the Molecule Man would have been one shotted himself and it would have been over with.

The MM didn't beat the Pre Retcon Beyonder, but if I recall correctly, he handled his own for awhile.

I am sorry Beyonder fanboys and fangirls, but I will NEVER agree that the Beyonder is God himself. Since that is true to me, than it is possible to get rid of him just like everyone else.

HOM Wanda is the most overated chareter in comics. she at best has the power of a small cosmic cube and only then in limited times of extreme stress. but per ret Beyonder would destroy everyone on the list in a heartbeat.

Originally posted by complexbrother
HOM Wanda is the most overated chareter in comics. she at best has the power of a small cosmic cube and only then in limited times of extreme stress. but per ret Beyonder would destroy everyone on the list in a heartbeat.

I disagree, but we all have our opinions.

It's comic books.

There is no real way to find out anyways 🙂

Originally posted by SouthSpawn
GEB, MJJ, Mr. Mxy, Franklin Richards, Dr. Fate, Dr. Strange, LT, Spectre,
Anti-Monitor, Molecule Man, The Ultimator, HOM Wonda

These guys alone could beat Pre Retcon Beyonder.

It seems as everyone likes to go by feats.

Mr. Mxy feats are just as good as the Beyonder's IMO.
When you can jump out of the comic book and talk to the writers.
IMO, that probably means you are capable of doing anything you want.

I love it how everyone thinks that the Beyonder is like GOD or something like that, BUT in looking at things he is NOT GOD.

He may be outside of the "Mainstream" universe, but these guys I mention abover working together would not lose to Beyonder.

It wouldn't be a one shot and these guys are gone.
If that was the case, then the Molecule Man would have been one shotted himself and it would have been over with.

The MM didn't beat the Pre Retcon Beyonder, but if I recall correctly, he handled his own for awhile.

I am sorry Beyonder fanboys and fangirls, but I will NEVER agree that the Beyonder is God himself. Since that is true to me, than it is possible to get rid of him just like everyone else.

Originally posted by fangirl101
I agree with much of this post. The Pre Retconned beyonder is a wet dream to millions of fanboys. He's not real. He has less impressive feats than Mxy or The LT and he was a noob. No way a noob who dresses Like Micheal Jackson is god. He didn't even know what the Marvel Multiverse was. How can he be God and he's ignorant? WTF.

You know, your post shows just how "antifanboy(or girl)" someone can be about a character but who am I to judge, I feel the same way about the infinite versions of Superman.

You say "he isn't real", but please tell me what comic book character is.

Feats? It's pretty hard to put ANYONE up against a character of this level.
As Pre Retcon Beyonder was intended by the writers the only one/ones who could possibly beat him would be TOAA or Prescence though I sure wouldn't put it past DC to create some version of Superman that could though that hasn't happened....yet.

Originally posted by fangirl101
I agree with much of this post. The Pre Retconned beyonder is a wet dream to millions of fanboys. He's not real. He has less impressive feats than Mxy or The LT and he was a noob. No way a noob who dresses Like Micheal Jackson is god. He didn't even know what the Marvel Multiverse was. How can he be God and he's ignorant? WTF.

Everyone Doom and Gloom? Pre-retconned, Dead, Depowered etc?

Originally posted by Utrigita
Everyone Doom and Gloom? Pre-retconned, Dead, Depowered etc?

Read Secret Wars I and II. Yes, everyone, except TOAA or Prescence.

Now maybe if Wolverine started dressing like Michael Jackson....

Marvel and DC for the win then.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Marvel and DC for the win then.

Based on what?

You are including GEB, Pre Recton Brothers, Spectre in all his different incarnations (two of them arguably equal to God) Thanos With Heart of the Universe, Michael and Lucifer, Ultimator, COIE Anti Monitor, Mandrakk, etc.

Originally posted by SouthSpawn

GEB, MJJ, Mr. Mxy, Franklin Richards, Dr. Fate, Dr. Strange, LT, Spectre,
Anti-Monitor, Molecule Man, The Ultimator, HOM Wonda

These guys alone could beat Pre Retcon Beyonder.

Originally posted by SouthSpawn

It seems as everyone likes to go by feats.

Mr. Mxy feats are just as good as the Beyonder's IMO.
When you can jump out of the comic book and talk to the writers.
IMO, that probably means you are capable of doing anything you want.

Originally posted by SouthSpawn

I love it how everyone thinks that the Beyonder is like GOD or something like that, BUT in looking at things he is NOT GOD.

Originally posted by SouthSpawn

He may be outside of the "Mainstream" universe, but these guys I mention abover working together would not lose to Beyonder.

The LT was trembling in fear of the Beyonder,
and since no one on your list is a supreme being, (perhaps the GEB)
they all get stomped.

Originally posted by SouthSpawn

It wouldn't be a one shot and these guys are gone.
If that was the case, then the Molecule Man would have been one shotted himself and it would have been over with.

Don't know if you knew that,
besides this, MM lasted like 2 panels before nearly getting annihilated,
but beyond even this,
Beyonder never really wanted to kill Owen or marvel,
this is why he faked his death as a baby at the end,
in order to go in peace back into the Beyond Realm.

Originally posted by SouthSpawn

The MM didn't beat the Pre Retcon Beyonder, but if I recall correctly, he handled his own for awhile.

Which is a monsttrous feat considreing he was battling a supreme being.

Originally posted by SouthSpawn

I am sorry Beyonder fanboys and fangirls, but I will NEVER agree that the Beyonder is God himself. Since that is true to me, than it is possible to get rid of him just like everyone else.

But I would mind getting criticism from ignorance,
so please, read the Secret Wars saga before commenting on it.

Originally posted by complexbrother

HOM Wanda is the most overated chareter in comics.
she at best has the power of a small cosmic cube
and only then in limited times of extreme stress.

Wanda tore the entire Omniverse to pieces via her chaos wave,
then she re-built the entire Omniverse via a spoken thought.

Originally posted by complexbrother

but per ret Beyonder would destroy everyone on the list in a

heartbeat.

Originally posted by fangirl101
The Pre Retconned beyonder is a wet dream to millions of fanboys. He's not real. He has less impressive feats than Mxy or The LT and he was a noob. No way a noob who dresses Like Micheal Jackson is god. He didn't even know what the Marvel Multiverse was. How can he be God and he's ignorant? WTF.

You never cease to make us laugh.

Originally posted by Utrigita

You are including GEB, Pre Recton Brothers, Spectre in all his different incarnations (two of them arguably equal to God) Thanos With Heart of the Universe, Michael and Lucifer, Ultimator, COIE Anti Monitor, Mandrakk, etc.

And Spectre was never equal to God,
he was given insight into what it was like to be God,
but that's inconsequential
since he couldn't even handled the momentary experience.

Originally posted by Mr Master
😆 ... I mean ... Fate/Strange? dur

In that case, She-Hulk can stalemate Mxy and also stomp Beyonder. 😐

Everyone doesn't think that,
and really, who cares who thinks that,
the fact is,
it's what Jim Shooter (Writer of SSI & II) literally stated in an interview,
and on panel.

HAHAHA!

The LT was trembling in fear of the Beyonder,
and since no one on your list is a supreme being, (perhaps the GEB)
they all get stomped.

Pre-MM > the LT

Don't know if you knew that,
besides this, MM lasted like 2 panels before nearly getting annihilated,
but beyond even this,
Beyonder never really wanted to kill Owen or marvel,
this is why he faked his death as a baby at the end,
in order to go in peace back into the Beyond Realm.

For two panels.

Which is a monsttrous feat considreing he was battling a supreme being.

Well I don't mind being labelled a "Beyonder fanboy"
heck, haters will always post some bull shit like that, you're not the first.

But I would mind getting criticism from ignorance,
so please, read the Secret Wars saga before commenting on it.

I don't care what you say, I really don't.

The Beyonder isn't going to beat everyone.

Like someone else said, this would include GEB, Pre Recton Brothers, Spectre in all his different incarnations (two of them arguably equal to God) Thanos With Heart of the Universe, Michael and Lucifer, Ultimator, COIE Anti Monitor, Mandrakk, etc

It's simple, HE AIN'T WINNING AGAINST EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
That's all you needed to say.

Anyway, Elaine Belloc FTW

Elaine basically is The Presence now, who is excluded from this thread.

I do think DC/Marvel wins, though. HOM Wanda, MJJ, Mxy, GEB, LT, etc.

I'm not counting external powerups like Thanos w/ HOTU 'cause that'd be cheap. But yeah...

Originally posted by Mr Master
No one but the supreme being of a company has any chance against Beyonder.

And Spectre was never equal to God,
he was given insight into what it was like to be God,
but that's inconsequential
since he couldn't even handled the momentary experience.

Pre Retcon MM did a good job of keeping Pre Retcon Beyonder at bay when they battled. He is included.

I said arguably equal on two occasions, one would be against COIE Anti Monitor, the other would be Spectre that battled GEB, and again Imo Dc and Marvel has when taking into account all of there long history with everyone included enough Fire Power to take down Pre Recton Beyonder.

Marvel/DC win this..this is spite 😆

Originally posted by Mr Master
You're very wrong brother.

Wanda tore the entire Omniverse to pieces via her chaos wave,
then she re-built the entire Omniverse via a spoken thought.

.

She did not tear the omniverse or even the universe she just (like this is a small feat) affected the earth.

show my one piece of truth on panel where she did something as grand as everyone claims, and that's not hyperbole. (like saying "his punches are so hard he could split heaven in half"😉

Originally posted by complexbrother
She did not tear the omniverse or even the universe she just (like this is a small feat) affected the earth.

show my one piece of truth on panel where she did something as grand as everyone claims, and that's not hyperbole. (like saying "his punches are so hard he could split heaven in half"😉

You didn't read House of M did you?

Originally posted by starlock
Marvel/DC win this..this is spite 😆

it is spite,beyonder is tearing them all a new ass