DE Sidious vs ROTS Yoda, Mace, and Dooku

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Revenge of the Sith Visual dictionary: "THE SITH HAVE WAITED a millennium for the birth of one who is powerful enough to return them from hiding. Darth Sidious is that one."

A) Power can be defined as the "capacity to act effectively," so the quote wouldn't necessarily be making a reference to Sidious' power in the Force in the first place.

B) Ignoring how you wish to define power in this case, the statement doesn't even conclusively prove that Sidious was more "powerful" than every Sith before or after him. There are two factors involved in "[Sidious being] powerful enough to return [the Sith] from hiding":

1. How "powerful" Sidious was.

2. How much "power" was required in returning the Sith from hiding.

[2.] would vary from Sith to Sith with the state of affairs in the Galaxy and with the Jedi and the Republic per their respective time periods.

... yeah those were supposed to be the Japanese characters for "Balmung," "Descendant of Fianna" and "The World."

Originally posted by ƒoƒ‹ƒ€ƒ“ƒN
... yeah those were supposed to be the Japanese characters for "Balmung," "Descendant of Fianna" and "The World."

I don't think that worked too well...

Unlucky.

Nebaris... you survived.

Originally posted by ƒoƒ‹ƒ€ƒ“ƒN
[B]A) Power can be defined as the "capacity to act effectively," so the quote wouldn't necessarily be making a reference to Sidious' power in the Force in the first place.

B) Ignoring how you wish to define power in this case, the statement doesn't even conclusively prove that Sidious was more "powerful" than every Sith before or after him. There are two factors involved in "[Sidious being] powerful enough to return [the Sith] from hiding":

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
You know what happens when you assume. You make an ASS out of U and ME.

Fixed. Failing while insulting someone is just terrible.

Originally posted by Genesis
Fixed. Failing while insulting someone is just terrible.

Wow. You are incompetent and rude. This is a new low for you: the word 'you' cannot be suitably replaced by the letter 'u' in any complete sentence. As the phrase that I was referencing was (I believe) originally conveyed through speech, rather than text, the idiosyncrasies of letter/word interchangeability that so fascinates the internet was not relevant; one can not use 'u' in place of 'you' when speaking. As such, I was correct in using the English language rather than the mongrel 'internet speak' that you appear to favor. Might I suggest that before you attempt to condescend to someone you at least take a viable position? Being condescending and wrong is 'just terrible', or so I've been told.

Wow, who's got the bigger verbal penis. That's hilarious.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Wow, who's got the bigger verbal penis. That's hilarious.

But I win, right!? RIGHT!?!?!?!?

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Wow. You are incompetent and rude. This is a new low for you: the word 'you' cannot be suitably replaced by the letter 'u' in any complete sentence. As the phrase that I was referencing was (I believe) originally conveyed through speech, rather than text, the idiosyncrasies of letter/word interchangeability that so fascinates the internet was not relevant; one can not use 'u' in place of 'you' when speaking. As such, I was correct in using the English language rather than the mongrel 'internet speak' that you appear to favor. Might I suggest that before you attempt to condescend to someone you at least take a viable position? Being condescending and wrong is 'just terrible', or so I've been told.

The Nazi lives!

I am ashamed: this is the first relapse. I'm told that the first one is the hardest- the next ones get easier and easier...

The relapse is entertaining.

And Gideon has left the building; there is no longer anyone here to discourage your Nazism.

Gideon's gone? Who's #1 now? Oh God! A power vacuum!

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Wow. You are incompetent and rude. This is a new low for you: the word 'you' cannot be suitably replaced by the letter 'u' in any complete sentence. As the phrase that I was referencing was (I believe) originally conveyed through speech, rather than text, the idiosyncrasies of letter/word interchangeability that so fascinates the internet was not relevant; one can not use 'u' in place of 'you' when speaking. As such, I was correct in using the English language rather than the mongrel 'internet speak' that you appear to favor. Might I suggest that before you attempt to condescend to someone you at least take a viable position? Being condescending and wrong is 'just terrible', or so I've been told.

I love the effort but your failure only grew. You really don't understand. It wasn't internet speak. The infamous "Assume" line has probably been around longer than you've been alive. Exit this discussion and discontinue embarrassing yourself. Your last retort only proves my point. When you come to realize this, my PM inbox is open for apologies.

Originally posted by Genesis
I love the effort but your failure only grew. You really don't understand. It wasn't Internet speak. The infamous "Assume" line has probably been around longer than you've been alive. Exit this discussion and discontinue embarrassing yourself. Your last retort only proves my point. When you come to realize this, my PM inbox is open for apologies.

I've noticed a pattern recently. Sometimes people say things without thinking. I'm guilty of it sometimes, but I also try to call it when I see it. Sometimes this means that I have to call myself 'stupid' (which I've done plenty of times) and sometimes I have to call someone else stupid. This has happened plenty of times too. I'm afraid that our particular situation, Ninja, is the latter. The second thing I've noticed is that when someone really, really wants to be right they lose sight of the argument and simply want to be the 'winner' for the sake of the argument itself. At this point personal attacks generally start flowing like wine. For some reason, you and Dr. M (formerly DS) have a tendency towards this state of mind more than any other poster I've yet seen. Your defense mechanism is (or at least initializes) similar(ly), too. You both imply that the other poster (me) is somehow wrong, although you can't exactly define how. Then, having established (in your own minds) that you've proven the other poster (me) wrong you assert that they (I) am 'embarrassing myself' or some other condescending claptrap. All this does is establish your own lack of confidence in your position. It is similar to my grammar Nazism- I only used it (I quit some time ago) in an attempt to make myself win, not make myself right. You are making the same mistake, and you are looking just as foolish as I did.

Of course, my conclusions about you are based on a very small amount of interaction. Please, prove me wrong. If you can abandon your less than desirable 'debating' habits long enough to prove your point then you will have won. I'd love to be wrong about you, but I don't think I am.

The 'infamous assume line' is fairly archaic. As far as I know, however, the English character 'U' is never an acceptable replacement for the word 'you' in written communication outside of the mongrel 'text speak' that plagues the Internet. By using 'you' rather than 'u' to make the reference I was directly quoting the (verbal) source material (The Odd Couple, I think). The character said the phrase out loud- he can't possibly have said "'u' and me" because he can't have said 'u'. It just isn't a word to be expressed in the English language.

(Why would I PM you an apology? Have I done something to hurt your feelings? Meow meow want his bottle?)

((I watched a lot of Mr. Roger's Neighborhood as a kid. So sue me.))

(((I realize that 'so sue me' is a sentence fragment, but this is a colloquialism that is used widely enough that I think it has become common usage.)))

Gideon's gone? Who's #1 now? Oh God! A power vacuum!

Wait, wut? When did this happen?

Your last retort only proves my point. When you come to realize this, my PM inbox is open for apologies.

I like this line.

RN, sorry... tl; dr. But I think somewhere in there I saw Nazism, so you've officially verified Godwin's Law. Of course, it's not like it doesn't get verified in this forum like three times an hour anyways.

Yes yes... we all know about Godwin's law. You aren't special and no body loves you. Or do they...

😖hifty:

Edit: Godwin only applies to Hitler himself though, right?

I linked you to the all-knowing database in that post.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Gideon's gone? Who's #1 now? Oh God! A power vacuum!

Wow. This discussion certainly went off the beaten track and went off topic in a hurry.