Protege vs classic Beyonder

Originally posted by Astner
That's called an unfalsifiable hypothesis, and is also an illogical fallacy. Because you can't prove a negative. It's like trying to refute the argument whether or not there are unicorns in the Swedish forests. Unless you can prove that they're there it's safe to assume that they're not.

But he is right, you cannot prove a negative, it is not up to him or anyone on Beyonder's side to prove he can't, it is up to Protege supporter's to prove he can.

The gap between LT and Beyonder is on a level that might as well be infinite.

And seriously, wasn't Doom, when absorbing Beyonder's self-limited power, unable to even control it?

Originally posted by Astner
In the same sense it's no purpose in assuming that Protege could copy any power greater than the Living Tribunal's.

If Protege tried, and failed, to copy a power = Beyonder, I'd see your point. However, since such opportunity was never presented, I respectfully disagree with you thinking Protege's copying ability just wouldn't work, here.

Protege never had any trouble copying anything, and it was specifically said there was no power he could not copy. If someone's power is "I can lift anything no matter how heavy it is" then obviously it makes no difference if the weight is five hundred or five billion tons.

So he could copy TOAA power?

No limits fallacy?

Originally posted by Mindset
So he could copy TOAA power?

Originally posted by Mindset
So he could copy TOAA power?

No limits fallacy?

Dude, if he copied the LT's power with no trouble, I really don't think he'd have an issue copying TOAA's power - if TOAA allowed him to. For example, I think Protege could've copied Scathan's powers if given an opportunity. He just wasn't.

TOAA is many magnitudes stronger than LT.

well IF Protege could copy absitively any power then that woud make him the most powerfull being in all of marvel multiverse, ever 🤨 (so above TOAA & pre-retcon beyonder)

Originally posted by Mindset
TOAA is many magnitudes stronger than LT.

Proof?

😛

Originally posted by Enyalus
Proof?

😛

Originally posted by Galan007
Because Protege would have all the powers he had during GotG + Beyonder's power.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Protege would win. Stackable power ftw

Originally posted by quanchi112
The is preretcon Beyonder who is well beyond Lt. Protege lost to Scathan and will lose royally to the classic beyonder. Why didn't he defeat Lt or Scathan?

He was stronger than the LT. He had the LT's power, Eternity's power, Hawk God's power, the amulet LT had's power, etc. Yeah, his powers stack. But for this match, he doesn't have those others to copy. Only Beyonder.

Originally posted by Mindset
The fact that he is the true omnipotent of Marvel is all the proof I need. 🙂

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Originally posted by Galan007
TOAA is the only omnipotent in Marvel. I don't care about this 'levels of infinity' garbage. If any character's power can be surpassed, then said character was never omnipotent to begin with.

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Originally posted by Galan007
TOAA is the only omnipotent in Marvel. I don't care about this 'levels of infinity' garbage. If any character's power can be surpassed, then said character was never omnipotent to begin with.

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...Odin is omnipotent. 😎

Originally posted by quanchi112
The is preretcon Beyonder who is well beyond Lt. Protege lost to Scathan and will lose royally to the classic beyonder.

Originally posted by Enyalus
He was stronger than the LT. He had the LT's power, Eternity's power, Hawk God's power, the amulet LT had's power, etc. Yeah, his powers stack. But for this match, he doesn't have those others to copy. Only Beyonder.

Originally posted by Galan007
Ahh so Protege copying Beyonder's powers means nothing? Cool. 👆

Per the thread starter, Protege starts out with all the powers he had during GotG. That, imo, is why he would beat Beyonder, instead of merely stalemate him.

Originally posted by Galan007
Per the thread starter, Protege starts out with all the powers he had during GotG. That, imo, is why he would beat Beyonder, instead of merely stalemate him.

Originally posted by Enyalus
But for this match, he doesn't have those others to copy. Only Beyonder.

we can have 2 fights (thats what I meant but I cant edit my 1st post no more 😠 )

1st fight, Protege starts out plain human

2nd fight, he starts out with all the powers he had before he was absorbed by LT (I dunno if that makes so much diffrence cause classic beyonder is way beyond this LT & all others combined, but whatever)

Originally posted by quanchi112
It didn't allow him to defeat Scathan. So even at his best he is far weaker than the Beyonder. 😐

Why? Because Protege will be able to add the power of Beyonder to those he possessed during GotG. This would obviously make him > Beyonder himself.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
1st fight, Protege starts out plain human

2nd fight, he starts out with all the powers he had before he was absorbed by LT (I dunno if that makes so much diffrence cause classic beyonder is way beyond this LT & all others combined, but whatever)

First battle = stalemate
Second battle = Protege ftw.

Originally posted by Galan007
Why do you keep bringing up Scathan? Protege never even attempted to copy his power - but that's moot anyway.

Why? Because Protege will be able to add the power of Beyonder to those he possessed during GotG. This would obviously make him > Beyonder himself.

Okay, so..

First battle = stalemate
Second battle = Protege ftw.

Do you realize how far above everything in the marvel u he was. It's like you are trying to make the argument that Protege was stacking power to rival the classic beyonder. Not even close.