Originally posted by King Kandyif toaa has always existed then the beyonder was never the supreme being, and yes the lts power has the capacity to grow as ahown when he absorbed the amulets power in order to defeat ans absorb protges power.
You are very wrong, TOAA has always existed since he is the writer of the marvel comics, obviously the writer has always existed unless you believe the comics spontaneously appeared without a writer. He just was never named before. The Beyonder was stronger than LT in the context of a pre-retcon thread so there is no need to reverse retcon anything, we have simply seen LT do more fights is all. It has never been stated LT's power grows with time, you are speculating there.
Originally posted by fangirl101
if toaa has always existed then the beyonder was never the supreme being, and yes the lts power has the capacity to grow as ahown when he absorbed the amulets power in order to defeat ans absorb protges power.
Originally posted by King Kandybut the One-Above-All(celestial) is always & always be their #1 so even Scathan should be below him
Well, I think we'd have seen him if he did. I mean maybe he's just hiding but personally I think he doesn't exist until later in the future. It could explain his high power level if he's some kind of "super celestial" that doesn't exist yet.
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
but he only need to be in their presence right? 馃え
No, Protege can only copy powers he observes.
(LT & the others didnt use there powers any more then scathan, they were just...there)
Protege didn't only appear in those issue. He appeared back in #16 where he copied the powers of the GotG and Malevolence. He appeared again in another issue where he battled the Beyonder in the Beyonders universe where he copied the Beyonders and Mephistos power.
The issue in question are where he copied the LT's power, Eternitys and the Hawkgods who all displayed power at one point or another. The LT used his power to teleport Protege and the Beyonder to the dimension of manifestation. He also displayed his power by judging against Protege and the Beyonder which is the LT's main ability.
LOL! .. at cats thinking Protege defeats Beyonder, lol,
I mean stalemating Beyonder was funny enough,
but now Protege is beating Beyonder. 馃槀
Protege got stomped effortlessly by Scathan,
who cares if Protege didn't witness Scathan's power,
does that make Protege a non-functioning inanimate object?
NO!
Protege still had the power of the LT/Eternity/Hawkgod and the rest,
making Protege a cosmic powerhouse,
and Scathan still with a gesture made Protege in-affective.
Protege could've teleported out of the muzzle,
Protege could've let out an outburst of omni-directional energy,
Protege could've simply eye-beamed the dome off his head,
Protege could've just broken out of the energy cuffs via brute strength,
Protege could've ... ahh, and on and on ...
but he DIDN'T ...
He instead was neutralized like an insignificant flea by the power of Scathan.
So ... 馃槅 at the thought of Protege defeating or even stalemating classic Beyonder.
Originally posted by Mr Master
LOL! .. at cats thinking Protege defeats Beyonder, lol,
I mean stalemating Beyonder was funny enough,
but now Protege is beating Beyonder. 馃槀Protege got stomped effortlessly by Scathan,
who cares if Protege didn't witness Scathan's power,
does that make Protege a non-functioning inanimate object?NO!
Protege still had the power of the LT/Eternity/Hawkgod and the rest,
making Protege a cosmic powerhouse,
and Scathan still with a gesture made Protege in-affective.Protege could've teleported out of the muzzle,
Protege could've let out an outburst of omni-directional energy,
Protege could've simply eye-beamed the dome off his head,
Protege could've just broken out of the energy cuffs via brute strength,
Protege could've ... ahh, and on and on ...but he DIDN'T ...
He instead was neutralized like an insignificant flea by the power of Scathan.
So ... at the thought of Protege defeating or even stalemating classic Beyonder.
Cool, but if Scathan was empowered by TOAA, he would also stomp Beyonder, no matter how powerful Beyonder seemed. Protege would easily stomp LT and all other Marvel Universe simultaneously. Although I give the win to Beyonder, I think Scathan would stomp Beyonder, if needed so.
Originally posted by fangirl101
That's a lie. The LT's power is given to him by the The one above all who. If there is no Omniverse to judge over, there is no power to judge. It's silly to even suggest the LT was omniversal when the series it self said that the beyond wrealm was everything outside of the multiverse. The attempt is sad and fails. The omniverse =the marvel multiverse of 84 + the beyond wrealm. Period.
Everyone powers are given by TOAA, someone less, someone more.
Originally posted by Mindsetcause thats how it start -_- some1 said LTs powers were constant so I said no they werent & I mention Scathan as counter example (LT is suppose to be > celestials yet LT is < Scathan). then they say maybe Scathan is some kinda super-celestial but then I say no cause OAA(celestial) is above all of them (and OAA-celestial is also < LT) but then u disagree. so in the end this means indirecly your saying LTs power remain constant since my counter-example dont work
How do you get that from me saying OAA isn't the strongest?
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33yeah but copying work instantly right? scathan showed his power by putting that blindfold on him
The issue in question are where he copied the LT's power, Eternitys and the Hawkgods who all displayed power at one point or another. The LT used his power to teleport Protege and the Beyonder to the dimension of manifestation. He also displayed his power by judging against Protege and the Beyonder which is the LT's main ability.