Originally posted by Astner
Now I know this was badly illustrated, but no-space is no-space. There will be no, absolutely no form of energy to manipulate. Solar would be as powerless as Jaspers.
1.) You act like Solar has to manipulate outside energy for his powers to work, which is wrong. He has ridiculous amounts of self contained power.
2.) What's keeping Solar there?
3.) Even if Solar stayed there, what's Fury going to do to beat him?
Originally posted by AstnerHere we go again. Did I mention feats?
None the less, Jaspers warped a universe and went beyond that, that's pretty much what Solar has done. But James power grew, Solar's didn't.
Oh so he doesn’t have the feats to back up his Omniversal hyperbo….er claims?
Fine, so where is this universe that Sir James Jaspers from reality 616 warped? And Lets see the extent of this reality alterations breaching 616 reality.
Originally posted by Astner
The actual answer.As James power grew exponentially Fury constantly adapted and fought him a standstill, later she found a flaw in his powers and pulled him out to no-space.
Now I know this was badly illustrated, but no-space is no-space. There will be no, absolutely no form of energy to manipulate. Solar would be as powerless as Jaspers.
Solar is not restricted to manipulating ambient energies. He can manipulate his own, or in this case the energies within the Fury.
Originally posted by Galan007
1.) You act like Solar has to manipulate outside energy for his powers to work, which is wrong. He has ridiculous amounts of self contained power.
Originally posted by Galan007 2.) What's keeping Solar there?
Originally posted by Galan007
3.) Even if Solar stayed there, what's Fury going to do to beat him?
Originally posted by id369
Try harder.Solar is not restricted to manipulating ambient energies. He can manipulate his own, or in this case the energies within the Fury.
Originally posted by AstnerCool. At least I know there's no reason to debate Solar with you. Why? Because you apparently have no idea how his powers work/what he can and has done.
The power he has is to control energy. In no-space there is no energy, because well there's no space-time.There's nothing there to manipulate. No rift to open.
A person who can't use his power? The same way she beat Jaspers.
Originally posted by Galan007
Cool. At least I know there's no reason to debate Solar with you. Why? Because you apparently have no idea how his powers work/what he can and has done.
If you really had a case you would bring it out. Jasper's power was identical to Solar's but on a grander scale. If Jaspers was powerless in no-space, than Solar would be too.
Originally posted by AstnerWhy bring up a case to someone who doesn't seem to comprehend a certain character's power in the first place?
Right. From what I've seen in your respect thread, there's nothing he could do to someone like Fury.If you really had a case you would bring it out.
Simply put, you think that if Solar is taken to un-space, he in some way becomes completely powerless. That is just not the case at all.
Originally posted by Galan007
Cool. At least I know there's no reason to debate Solar with you. Why? Because you apparently have no idea how his powers work/what he can and has done.
Apparently in un-space there is the unstated added property, that restricts a characters internal abilities. So its not just the fact, that there is simply nothing to mold, shape, or manipulate within its surroundings.
Oh wait, there is no such thing. Its simply stack's of shity remarks stacked on top of others, to prevent their characters from losing.
Hell un-space inst even a viable option, since the setting take place in a neutral local listed by the forums.
Originally posted by id369Yeah, and even though Fury was able to teleport in/out of un-space, Solar would be unable to for some reason. lulz.
Apparently in un-space there is the unstated added property, that restricts a characters internal abilities. So its not just the fact, that there is simply nothing to mold, shape, or manipulate within its surroundings.Oh wait, there is no such thing. Its simply stack shity remarks stacked on top of others, to prevent their characters from losing.
Originally posted by Galan007
Why bring up a case to someone who doesn't seem to comprehend a certain character's power in the first place?
You're suggesting that Solar could do something James couldn't. But you're yet to prove it. And unless you do, you have no position.
Originally posted by Galan007
Simply put, you think that if Solar is taken to un-space, he in some way becomes completely powerless. That is just not the case at all.
Reality warpers with the ability to create matter and energy from scratch could act in that plane. Solar can't.
Originally posted by AstnerMy God, please tell me you are reading his posts? And not simply cherry picking his comments, to make favorable responses.
Because it's a debate. And if you want to prove a point you do it, and don't use illogical fallacies to reject people who don't agree with you.You're suggesting that Solar could do something James couldn't. But you're yet to prove it. And unless you do, you have no position.
Because his power is energy manipulation. How can there be energy if there's no space. Where do you put the energy? When there's no space.
Reality warpers with the ability to create matter and energy from scratch could act in that plane. Solar can't.
Solar counts on his own internal energies to manipulate. Taking him to un-space will do absolutely nothing to his internal energies. Nor does this restrict, the Fury’s internal energy supply being messed with.
Originally posted by id369
Your right, the Fury weapon of choice is his hand cannon. And rigidly, depends on his ability to adapt.
I wouldn't what is effective against the character. If nothing is effective he wins, otherwise he loses. Meh.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Tbh, MJJ would probably kill Solar before that ever happened.
MJJ is an entirely different beast, he has the genuine power to end this conflict. The Fury, is much less threatening than Jaspers.
Originally posted by id369I think that's what he's having problems understanding, for some reason. 😕
Solar counts on his own internal energies to manipulate. Taking him to un-space will do absolutely nothing to his internal energies. Nor does this restrict, the Fury’s internal energy supply being messed with.
Originally posted by id369
My God, please tell me you are reading his posts? And not simply cherry picking his comments, to make favorable responses.Solar counts on his own internal energies to manipulate. Taking him to un-space will do absolutely nothing to his internal energies. Nor does this restrict, the Fury’s internal energy supply being messed with.
If Solar were to pull out energy out of his ass in no-space it would cease to exist. He has no power in no-space, for the same reason James didn't.
Fury was warping reality itself. Not relying on energy in the same sense.
Originally posted by Galan007
I think that's what he's having problems understanding, for some reason. 😕
Originally posted by Astner
Are you serious?If Solar were to pull out energy out of his ass in no-space it would cease to exist. He has no power in no-space, for the same reason James didn't.
Fury was warping reality itself. Not relying on energy in the same sense.
Oh, I see. So in un-space, the Fury can go about his business relying on his own energy reservoirs. However, Solar cant piss energy on him because the setting prevent him to do so? You might as well say, that Solar ceases to exist. He is living energy and all.
Where does it state, that if Solar pisses energy its going to cease to exist. Because if you prove this, then all the power to you, I concede. If not, your simply stacking shit, on top of a pile you created.
And in any case, its still moot point. The match isn’t set in Marvel verse.