The Fury(Most powerful version) vs Solar Man of Atom

Originally posted by id369
Oh, I see. So in un-space, the Fury can go about his business relying on his own energy reservoirs. However, Solar cant piss energy on him because the setting prevent him to do so? You might as well say, that Solar ceases to exist. He is living energy and all.

Where does it state, that if Solar pisses energy its going to cease to exist. Because if you prove this, then all the power to you, I concede. If not, your simply stacking shit, on top of a pile you created.

And in any case, its still moot point. The match isn’t set in Marvel verse.

Fury adapted to un-space 🙂

It's not logical for MJJ to not be able to change his own shape though or heal himself.

Originally posted by id369
Oh, I see. So in un-space, the Fury can go about his business relying on his own energy reservoirs. However, Solar cant piss energy on him because the setting prevent him to do so? You might as well say, that Solar ceases to exist. He is living energy and all.

Again, THE REASON James was powerless was because he couldn't use his power there. There was nothing to shape, not even his own body (even though it was illustrated).

Originally posted by id369 Where does it state, that if Solar pisses energy its going to cease to exist. Because if you prove this, then all the power to you, I concede. If not, your simply stacking shit, on top of a pile you created.

Originally posted by id369 And in any case, its still moot point. The match isn’t set in Marvel verse.

Originally posted by Astner
Fury didn't use energy. If he did use it Jasper would shape it.

He teleported in and out of unspace, to do so energy is needed. And just because he didn’t use energy, doesn’t mean that their isn’t any to be used against. Fact remains, he counts on his energy reservoirs to exist. An energy manipulator would make use of the fact, regardless of where the setting is taking place.

Originally posted by Astner

Again, THE REASON James was powerless was because he couldn't use his power there. There was nothing to shape, not even his own body (even though it was illustrated).

And your comment seems to fold on itself. Didn’t the Fury blast him in un-space?

Originally posted by Astner

Read up, there are scans in Mr M's thread.

If Fury can't use his ability, then he's restricted. The battleground is such that both can use their power to the fullest.

So you relay on other members explanations, fill in the response? Ugh.

I understand that both characters can use their ability to their finest. However this is a neutral setting. there is no such thing as un-space in a neutral setting. Thus applying the means to take out MJJ, on Solar Moot.

Hmmm. Un-space. You mean that place where nothing, not even reality exists? You mean like this:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/solar137.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/solar138.jpg

This is where Solar found himself when he collapsed all of reality into himself. His powers still worked pretty well, tho.

Actually, I also remember Solar falling into un-space again during the Image-Valiant crossover. His powers worked there, too.

Unless of course you think there's a different un-space out there.

Un-space BFR isn't gonna work on Solar, he'd adapt just as quickly as the Fury would and simply port out of it.

Originally posted by Astner
In simple terms. James developed into an omniversal threat, yet the Fury managed to adapt to his abilities and take him out.

Solar might've been a universal (maybe a multiversal) threat, but pale in comparison to Jaspers.

The Omniverse - Multiverse - Universe thing is a really cheap way for Marvel fans to discredit all other non-marvel cosmics.

Omniverse is all of reality, thats all.

When an company is made of an Multiverse and nothing else, then this is also an omniverse.

Honestly, if an non-marvel villain is an threat to all that is, it doesn't matter how you call it, universe or multiverse, he would be also an threat to the ominverse should the company decide to use the term.

Anyway, I don't think Solar can lose this one

Astner, one more insult and it's a warning.

What I would like the people that mention Un Space is to explain why the they think Un-Space is empty? I mean Stranger explained that a minus and a minus makes a plus, so Nullification against Nullification makes creation showed when Reed used the Ultimate Nullifier, however the Nullifications energy must react with something in order to make something, this is only theory, but is it possible that what is left behind is simply Nullified energy? Jaspers wouldn't be capable of manipulating it because it's "dead" reality srug Just a thought.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Actually, I also remember Solar falling into un-space again during the Image-Valiant crossover. His powers worked there, too.

Originally posted by Ambient
Yup... Deathmate.. Infact i think his energy help shape both Image and Valiant Universes..

So the whole un-space dilemma is a moot argument.

I'm sure the people that argue that Fury will win hasn't really read any Solar comics at all.

Tho the nature of Fury's power will still give him a few wins IF Seleski does something stupid like try and infiltrate the robot's OS to try and shut him down (I can see the Fury easily adapting to Solar's powers and then effing him up HARD while inside the Fury's system). But if Solar simply whacks him HARD or uncreates him, it's a one-shot that the Fury will not have time to adapt to. And even if he does, Solar can outlast him as he can fight indefinately while the Fury has shown that it has limits and can be destroyed.

Overall, I see Solar taking at least 6/10 or mebbe 7/10 easily.

Fury wins.

Solar can't put him down and Fury will find his weakness. There's no such thing as no weaknesses.

A god has no weakness...

You mean Thor has no weakness? How about Odin? He's dead you know.

Then they are not true godzzzz..

No Weakness marked of a true godzz. ...

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Fury wins.

Solar can't put him down and Fury will find his weakness. There's no such thing as no weaknesses.

Originally posted by Mekrob
What's Fury's weakness?

Blink.

Originally posted by Ambient
Then they are not true godzzzz..

No Weakness marked of a true godzz. ...

Solar is god-like. He's not THE God.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Blink.

You're a high schooler aren't you?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Solar is god-like. He's not THE God.