Optimus Prime vs. King Kong

Started by dadudemon36 pages
Originally posted by FrothByte
LOL. lololol. I'm done here.

You don't have to rage quit.

Just ask for proof that they are made from a material weaker than steel.

2:20 kong is hit with multiple BMG rounds and is barely moved by the impact.

YouTube video

and before you feel clever: i know well that from here we'll go back to trying to conflate the kinetic energy of a 50 cal heavy machine gun round.

Steel or not they're destroyable by Humans.

Pity the Konghaters bitched so bad to make it 2007 onwards Prime. They really shot themselves in the foot there.

If they had picked G1, 2005 Kong'd be screwed in pretty much all instances.....as circuit breaker was a rarity in humans in that she could fry them. The rest were more or less screwed against them. (Megatron took a full bombardment for the best of 80s troops with everything short of nukes for half and hour or something and walked away without a scratch.....) but nooooooo the rage tears they cried and the stamping of the feet resulted in an own-goal of hilarious proportions.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You don't have to rage quit.

Just ask for proof that they are made from a material weaker than steel.

he asserted that they were made of steel. reading comprehension please.

Originally posted by FrothByte

Again, who was hammering Prime? Oh that's right, other transformers made of STEEL.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth

Please provide proof that TFS are made of steel.

On top of that, Kong is clearly shown smahing the shit out of steel objects in his rampage even when cars would accidentally collide with him, they got properly stoved in.. unlike Starscream when taking hits from Prime's little rapid wrist gun in ROTF lol

Originally posted by FrothByte

Granted he was able to rip the T-rex's jaw, but that took some time.

Oh yeah! 1 second, whilst protecting the lady and fighting off two others..!

By the way feat that Prime couldnt do that Kong actually could?

Defending a human against 3 assailants whilst holding the human and shielding them....killing all assailants and without getting killed too.

LOLZ at DOTM with the whole humans killing loads of decepticons by sniping their optic sensors then shooting them and blowing them up lol

lulz. Optimus would have WTFpwned those V-Rexes without a problem. King Kong would get facephucked by 3 Decepticons though.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth

LOLZ at DOTM with the whole humans killing loads of decepticons by sniping their optic sensors then shooting them and blowing them up lol

good call

1:14 TF's were wounded by bushmaster ACR's
YouTube video

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Transformers:_Dark_of_the_Moon#AKM

Rate of fire 800 RPM
Muzzle velocity 2,600–3,250 ft/s
Effective range 600 m
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptive_Combat_Rifle

the browning has equal muzzle velocity and more massive bullets

Rate of fire 1,200 rounds/min (AN/M3)
Muzzle velocity 2,910 ft/s
Effective range 1,800 m
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2_Browning

cant wait to read all the backflips and copouts and rage-quitting 🙂

Originally posted by focus4chumps
he asserted that they were made of steel. reading comprehension please.

I guess you didn't understand my point. I'll make it again but with more words:

Originally posted by dadudemon
If the idea of asking for proof is that they are made of a material weaker than steel, just ask for proof that they are made from a material weaker than steel.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
good call

1:14 TF's were wounded by bushmaster ACR's
YouTube video

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Transformers:_Dark_of_the_Moon#AKM

Rate of fire 800 RPM
Muzzle velocity 2,600–3,250 ft/s
Effective range 600 m
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptive_Combat_Rifle

the browning has equal muzzle velocity and more massive bullets

Rate of fire 1,200 rounds/min (AN/M3)
Muzzle velocity 2,910 ft/s
Effective range 1,800 m
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2_Browning

cant wait to read all the backflips and copouts and rage-quitting 🙂

Hahahhahahaa

🙂

Originally posted by Lestov16
lulz. Optimus would have WTFpwned those V-Rexes without a problem. King Kong would get facephucked by 3 Decepticons though.

And assumption of yours.
The T-Rexes are bigger than Prime.

Grimlock is stronger than Prime. He is a T-rex.

Not looking good for Prime. Or Sam in that scenario, as Prime couldn't juggle Sam safely in the same way as Kong.

(Look at the way he just leaves Sam in a position where the Deceps could have killed Sam and taken the allspark fragment!)
If that has been the Rexes, Sam would be emerging from a dinosaur's tea towel holder within 2-3 days....

Originally posted by focus4chumps
good call

1:14 TF's were wounded by bushmaster ACR's
YouTube video

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Transformers:_Dark_of_the_Moon#AKM

Rate of fire 800 RPM
Muzzle velocity 2,600–3,250 ft/s
Effective range 600 m
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptive_Combat_Rifle

the browning has equal muzzle velocity and more massive bullets

Rate of fire 1,200 rounds/min (AN/M3)
Muzzle velocity 2,910 ft/s
Effective range 1,800 m
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2_Browning

cant wait to read all the backflips and copouts and rage-quitting 🙂

Perhaps you should watch the video all the way through.

It showed the same Transformers taking rockets to the chest and barely showing damage.

The humans had to use explosives(I think they got them from Wheeljack as well although I could be wrong) to take down the transformers as their guns were proving essentially worthless everywhere except the eyes which was only causing the Transformers minor damage and not even taking them out.

That's hardly humans raping Transformers with conventional fire and shows that the normal Decepticons Optimus was tearing through moments later were essentially bullet proof and could withstand rpgs, something I think Kong would have a hard time tanking. That's not really a good video to support your arguments.

Originally posted by Newjak

good job dodging concrete definitive evidence that rounds far smaller than the BRM 50 can definately wound transformers. 👆

Newjak.. They were shooting them with bullets and killing them.
Why you ignore this is puzzling.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
good job dodging concrete definitive evidence that rounds far smaller than the BRM 50 can definately wound transformers. 👆
In the eyes, I would say those same rounds would blind Kong as well if fired into his eyes. Even then the tranformers only received minor damage and their eyes were still functional. Kong would have been blinded.

Also once again you're ignoring the fact that those same Transformers were taking RPGs to the chest. Something Kong can't do without sustaining major injury.

Also once again ignoring the fact the bullets had no effect outside of the optics of the transformers as we contentiously see them bounce off everywhere else on the Decepticons.

You can't just post video to make a minor point and then disregard the rest of it that hurt your base line argument throughout the thread.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You don't have to rage quit.

Just ask for proof that they are made from a material weaker than steel.

Oh it's not rage-quitting. Rage-quit is when you get so pissed you walk out. It's not even about proving or disproving whether transformers were made of steel (admittedly, the better word I should have used was metal).

But when you're dealing with people who fail time and again to provide proof of more relevant points like:

-prove Kong is stronger than prime
-prove Kong is more durable than prime
-prove Kong can withstand Prime's weapons
-prove Kong can evade Prime's weapons

and instead try to tie you up by strawmanning and making you run around by asking for proof of less relevant things like:

-prove they are made of steel
-prove modern weapons have faster velocity than WWI weapons
-prove that Prime can hit Kong with his weapons
- And are you aware of how powerful a silverback gorilla is compared to a same sized human

well, obviously you're dealing with people more intent on just being argumentative than actually debating properly. So there's really no sense in continuing a debate like this. Prime has mostly won this anyway. Only like 3 people are still rooting for Kong.

Besides, if I wanted to debate like them, I wouldn't even need to prove that TFS were made of steel. All I'd need to say is something like: Prove that they are not made of steel.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Newjak.. They were shooting them with bullets and killing them.
Why you ignore this is puzzling.

killing or wounding? i really dont want to watch any of that crap movie anymore. (dont want them spiraling off on a quibbling tangent to avoid damning evidence as we clearly see is being attempted)

point is that rounds far weaker than the browning 50cal was not only producing a clear effect of knocking their heads around, but also damaging the supposed super-duper-future-metal.

all you sniveling clowns can tapdance around that all you wish but you look so petty and butthurt right now 🙂

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Newjak.. They were shooting them with bullets and killing them.
Why you ignore this is puzzling.
They were shooting them with bullets, and they were majorly injuring them. But they were not doing so with the bullets, they were doing it with explosives. Something you guys are ignoring.

the scene clearly shows face damage by ACR rounds.

newjack, its clear now that you are ignoring solid evidence and thus behaving like an irrational combative troll.