Optimus Prime vs. King Kong

Originally posted by Newjak
In the eyes, I would say those same rounds would blind Kong as well if fired into his eyes. Even then the tranformers only received minor damage and their eyes were still functional. Kong would have been blinded.

Also once again you're ignoring the fact that those same Transformers were taking RPGs to the chest. Something Kong can't do without sustaining major injury.

Kong shields himself better against gunfire....
Feats show him forearm blocking gunfire for his face.
And RPG is slower than bullets.
Kong has instinct on his side like that.

Also once again ignoring the fact the bullets had no effect outside of the optics of the transformers as we contentiously see them bounce off everywhere else on the Decepticons.

Lies. The clips shown shows otherwise.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
2:20 kong is hit with multiple BMG rounds and is barely moved by the impact.

YouTube video.

Originally posted by focus4chumps

1:14 TF's were wounded by bushmaster ACR's
YouTube video

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Transformers:_Dark_of_the_Moon#AKM

Rate of fire 800 RPM
Muzzle velocity 2,600–3,250 ft/s
Effective range 600 m
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptive_Combat_Rifle

the browning has equal muzzle velocity and more massive bullets

Rate of fire 1,200 rounds/min (AN/M3)
Muzzle velocity 2,910 ft/s
Effective range 1,800 m
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2_Browning

cant wait to read all the backflips and copouts and rage-quitting 🙂

🙂

and finally:

how does a single ACR round impact a transformer:

and multiple BMG 50 cal (much greater kinetic energy) hitting kong:

🙂

Originally posted by Kazenji
Not sure if this has been posted

I could be wrong, but my gut tells me that '98 Godzilla was bigger than the picture portrays.

i think its accurate. at least when looking at batman scale compared to

1998 godzilla was a midget

Is it me, or is Godzilla pulling a troll face there....? 😛

Originally posted by focus4chumps

"Ate all your fish!!!! YOU MAD BRO....?!!???!!!"

he does look far too pleased with himself after he's clearly lost.

kinda like some people we know here. 🙂

Aye.

A more suitable opponent for BayPrime to fight with all guns, knives and swords... he could WIN this one:

Bullshit post:

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Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Kong shields himself better against gunfire....
Feats show him forearm blocking gunfire for his face.
And RPG is slower than bullets.
Kong has instinct on his side like that.

Lies. The clips shown shows otherwise.
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An RPG is slower than bullets but when it explodes releases a lot more kinetic energy than the bullets as well.

Don't tell you are trying to say a bullet can do more damage than an RPG can?

That video clearly showed that the humans normal guns(with the exception of hitting eyes) were useless against the Decepticons and the only way they were able to actually seriously damage them were with explosives.

The same Decepticons that Optimus steam rolled after that.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Bullshit post:

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Originally posted by Newjak
This is an irrelevant point as the discussion was not about blocking bullets it was about the damage the bullets would have had hitting Kong in the eyes. The robots were taken by surprise and showed no signs of damage from the bullets hitting them anywhere but the eyes, and they weren't blinded by it.

An RPG is slower than bullets but when it explodes releases a lot more kinetic energy than the bullets as well.

Don't tell you are trying to say a bullet can do more damage than an RPG can?

That video clearly showed that the humans normal guns(with the exception of hitting eyes) were useless against the Decepticons and the only way they were able to actually seriously damage them were with explosives.

The same Decepticons that Optimus steam rolled after that.

😂

keep avoiding evidence that rounds far lighter than the BGM have damaged transformers AND made them violently recoil from the kinetic energy. then try not to cry. then cry a lot and post more distractive tactics.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
and finally:

how does a single ACR round impact a transformer:

and multiple BMG 50 cal (much greater kinetic energy) hitting kong:

🙂

Originally posted by focus4chumps
😂

keep avoiding evidence that rounds far lighter than the BGM have damaged transformers AND made them violently recoil from the kinetic energy. then try not to cry. then cry a lot and post more distractive tactics.

Evidence you posted clearly destroys most of your arguments about the effectiveness of normal weapons against Transformers.

One of you even tried to imply bullets are >>> damage output than Explosives.

At this point I'm pretty sure you guys are just trying to be purposely stubborn.

See? Told ya.

Originally posted by Newjak
This is an irrelevant point as the discussion was not about blocking bullets it was about the damage the bullets would have had hitting Kong in the eyes. The robots were taken by surprise and showed no signs of damage from the bullets hitting them anywhere but the eyes, and they weren't blinded by it.

But they wouldnt hit him in the eyes..
as shown.

An RPG is slower than bullets but when it explodes releases a lot more kinetic energy than the bullets as well.

The same Decepticons that Optimus steam rolled after that. [/QUOTE]

Yeah weak ass deceps, generic monstery shaped targets with all the AI of a 1982 calculator...

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
See? Told ya.

But they wouldnt hit him in the eyes..
as shown.

It's effectiveness would depend on a lot of things. angles of deflection, whether of not it was a direct hit of not, whether or not Kong was to swat it aside... etc

See above answer. If it misses, then yeah the bullet would, and even in other scenarios.

No. It shows then shooting the f**k out of felled deceps destroying them too.

The same Decepticons that Optimus steam rolled after that.

Yeah weak ass deceps, generic monstery shaped targets with all the AI of a 1982 calculator...

The rest is iodiotic and trying to pull this convo to some weird boundary case you hope to use to make a point that is irrelevant to the topic.

King Kong would be seriously injured if he took a shot by an RPG.

Originally posted by Newjak
You guys are pretty much being idiotic at this point in your attempts.

Evidence you posted clearly destroys most of your arguments about the effectiveness of normal weapons against Transformers.

One of you even tried to imply bullets are >>> damage output than Explosives.

At this point I'm pretty sure you guys are just trying to be purposely stubborn.

You are pretty much being idiotic at this point in your attempts.

Evidence we posted clearly destroys most of your arguments about the effectiveness of normal weapons against Transformers.

You even tried to imply small little modern bullets are >>> damage output than heavy calibre rounds.

At this point I'm pretty sure you are just trying to be purposely stubborn.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
and finally:

how does a single ACR round impact a transformer:

and multiple BMG 50 cal (much greater kinetic energy) hitting kong:

🙂

Originally posted by Newjak
You guys are pretty much being idiotic at this point in your attempts.

Evidence you posted clearly destroys most of your arguments about the effectiveness of normal weapons against Transformers.

One of you even tried to imply bullets are >>> damage output than Explosives.

At this point I'm pretty sure you guys are just trying to be purposely stubborn.

attempting to misrepresent the point and lead the conversation away from clear and irrefutable evidence.

you're pathetic.

Originally posted by Newjak
In the same scenario if Kong did not know he was under attack would not be able to block the bullets. He only was able to block the bullets to the face because he saw the planes coming.

The rest is iodiotic and trying to pull this convo to some weird boundary case you hope to use to make a point that is irrelevant to the topic.

King Kong would be seriously injured if he took a shot by an RPG.

In that same scenario, if Prime did not know he was under attack, the 1st he'd know would be after his head was ripped off and used as toilet paper. You think hes not gonna hear or see Prime coming? lol Kong has the better ambush feats.

With respect, in order to avoid sounding idiotic, you'd best spell it that way when trying to put others down.
The points are valid, even if you don't agree with them.

Speculation. He may be able to survive long enough to murder Prime still for all you know and what we all know by his combat feats/size advantage over Prime.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
You are pretty much being idiotic at this point in your attempts.

Evidence we posted clearly destroys most of your arguments about the effectiveness of normal weapons against Transformers.

You even tried to imply small little modern bullets are >>> damage output than heavy calibre rounds.

At this point I'm pretty sure you are just trying to be purposely stubborn.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
attempting to misrepresent the point and lead the conversation away from clear and irrefutable evidence.

you're pathetic.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
In that same scenario, if Prime did not know he was under attack, the 1st he'd know would be after his head was ripped off and used as toilet paper. You think hes not gonna hear or see Prime coming? lol Kong has the better ambush feats.

With respect, in order to avoid sounding idiotic, you'd best spell it that way when trying to put others down.
The points are valid, even if you don't agree with them.

Speculation. He may be able to survive long enough to murder Prime still for all you know and what we all know by his combat feats/size advantage over Prime.

The points are invalid because they don't actually change anything. Your friend tried to show a video making the claim normal fire could put down the Decepticons. All it showed was them temporarily blinding a few with surprise shots while most of their shots bounced off and having to use explosives to hurt them. Even then one of them managed to take a RPG to the chest and keep fighting.

King Kong would have died much easier in the same scenario. If he was unaware of the troops, two shots to the eyes would have blinded him, possibly killing him there. The first RPG would have finished him off for sure.

So you're video evidence basically points to a typical Decepticon being more durable then Kong good job.

another infantile attempt to further distract and lead the conversation away from irrefutable evidence on the comparative effects of rounds in respect to damage and kinetic energy.

again: rounds far lighter than the BGM made a full-size TF violently recoil from the kinetic energy.

while kong was balanced on top of a platform and withstood the kinetic energy from BMG rounds, FAR GREATER and MULTIPLE SHOTS.

ACR:

BGM 50:

and you have no right to call anyone a troll. bring in imp or a global mod and lets see who's derailed the topic with fallacious drivel and baseless speculation (you) and who has contributed with solid evidence. (me)

Originally posted by Newjak
Normal weapons were unable to seriously harm Transformers, your video has not changed that.

Well the scanario isn't happening so that even if true (something you only speculate on) its irrelevant.
You omit that they were shooting Deceps to death with guns too.