Originally posted by TricksterPriestNo, the point is when someone else came in and kicked his ass his followers were happy to follow someone else. Most of his followers will jump at the first chance to betray him and that includes Desaad and the higher ups. No loyalty in his army.
..........Yuga was the former ruler who Darkseid deposed on his quest to take over Apokolips. That might have something to do with it. And really? Yuga Khan? A being capable of soloing Asgard or Olympus?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos is still respected is my point across the boards while Darkseid isn't. That is a fact.
And I said, I could care less if you idolize the guy, he simply doesn't make for good stories and that's a fact.
DS has a better rep within the media, he's a bigger character, because he actually makes for a great foil for heroes with his diabolical mind.
DS is a better product than Thanos: fact.
Originally posted by quanchi112Fc will never ever be held in the same regard as the ig.
No legitimate comic critic has any high regard for the IG (don't kid yourself), and if you're talking story telling FC was better at least before the last couple of issues.
More than that, FC was a Crisis which will have an effect on the story operations within the company for some time. More important to DC than IG ever was to Marvel.
Originally posted by AllanklesI said that he is still a highly respected character across the lands while Ds isn't. Cbr and herochat both treat him like garbage.
And I said, I could care less if you idolize the guy, he simply doesn't make for good stories and that's a fact.DS has a better rep within the media, he's a bigger character, because he actually makes for a great foil for heroes with his diabolical mind.
DS is a better product than Thanos: fact.
Ds isn't a better product at all. Ds has gotten stale. He is just another superman villain nowadays.
Originally posted by MekrobI'm not biased.
Allankles' opinion is as bias as Quan's, and that's a fact.
Originally posted by AllanklesIg has stood the test of time while fc was a snoozefest that was by far the weakest of all the crisis. I could care less about long term effects, the ig was a much better story.
No legitimate comic critic has any high regard for the IG (don't kid yourself), and if you're talking story telling FC was better at least before the last couple of issues.More than that, FC was a Crisis which will have an effect on the story operations within the company for some time. More important to DC than IG ever was to Marvel.
Oh, I thought when we claimed 'fact' that that made it undeniable.
EDIT: Yet your argument is hypocrisy at its best if you don't accept your logic for other characters. If you don't think Wolverine is better than Darkseid, then your logic fails.
It's the quickest way to show a fault, so don't pull out the 'relevant' card.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I'm not biased. Ig has stood the test of time while fc was a snoozefest that was by far the weakest of all the crisis. I could care less about long term effects, the ig was a much better story.
The IG was simpler tale, that doesn't translate to better story. TQ was awful and IG was a by-the-number's tale.
Originally posted by Mekrob
Oh, I thought when we claimed 'fact' that that made it undeniable.EDIT: Yet your argument is hypocrisy at its best if you don't accept your logic for other characters. If you don't think Wolverine is better than Darkseid, then your logic fails.
I don't see any hypocrisy. This isn't about liking one character over the other based on criteria like product, I was simply stating a fact.
How that statement extends to making Wolvie and others gods, I don't know. The fact stands by itself, no need to make any assumptions off of that fact.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I said that he is still a highly respected character across the lands while Ds isn't. Cbr and herochat both treat him like garbage.
So a bunch of marvel inclined kids prefer Thanos over DS? glad you cleared that up.
Too bad DS has been treated to better stories across all forms of media.
Originally posted by AllanklesYou made a point about him being bigger in the media, and having a better rep. 😐
I don't see any hypocrisy. This isn't about liking one character over the other based on criteria like product, I was simply stating a fact.How that statement extends to making Wolvie and others gods, I don't know. The fact stands by itself, no need to make any assumptions off of that fact.
Using that logic, Wolverine is far better than Darkseid can ever dream of being.
Originally posted by AllanklesEmailing the ale isn't a great idea by any stretch. If you want to nitpick I can talk about the lackluster ending and how uneventful the whole thing was. TQ was awful in your opinion, but imo fc was forgettable.
The IG was simpler tale, that doesn't translate to better story. TQ was awful and IG was a by-the-number's tale.
Originally posted by AllanklesHe is throwing your doublestandard rationale in your face. Can't you see that?
I don't see any hypocrisy. This isn't about liking one character over the other based on criteria like product, I was simply stating a fact.How that statement extends to making Wolvie and others gods, I don't know. The fact stands by itself, no need to make any assumptions off of that fact.