Doom and J. Constantine vs. Reed and L. Luthor

Started by Mindset6 pages

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Nope...

In the Council of Reeds storyline,a non-BS'ing Reed owned the daylights out of Doom...

Reed is Dooms superior; Doom is only competitive because Reed typically self-checks himself while Doom acts without restraint...

Yup.

Doom acts with restraint.

A non-bs'ing Doom would own any Reed with his magic+tech.

Reed is only competitive with Doom because Doom plays around with him.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Team 2 wins...

[b]NO ONE can defeat a determined Reed Richards... [/B]

Constantine beats beings of higher tier without the aid of uber tech. He'll con Reed into building something for him and then take his wife. 😉

Originally posted by Mindset
Yup.

Doom acts with restraint.

A non-bs'ing Doom would own any Reed with his magic+tech.

Reed is only competitive with Doom because Doom plays around with him.

Bull...

Wait until I find that scan of Reed putting the brain whammy on Doom and what he has to say to Doom while doing it to him...

Wait until I find the whole story arcs of Doom outclassing Reed then losing because of the classic, I'm a villain so I'm going to underestimate you until I've been beaten trope.

Originally posted by Mindset
Wait until I find the whole story arcs of Doom outclassing Reed then losing because of the classic, I'm a villain so I'm going to underestimate you until I've been beaten trope.

Reed was in "good guy" mode in every single one of those; he was self checking...

In the scan (I know zopzop has it...I will get it from him) Reed says something to the effect of "I always could have owned you" and brain whammy's Doom into complete helplessness...

He had a dog colar around Dooms neck...LoL!!

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Reed was in "good guy" mode in every single one of those; he was self checking...

In the scan (I know zopzop has it...I will get it from him) Reed says something to the effect of "I always could have owned you" and brain whammy's Doom into complete helplessness...

He had a dog colar around Dooms neck...LoL!!

And Doom self checks by not just killing outright killing Reed.

Doom has said pretty much the same thing to Reed.

Doom trapped Reed in his suit and Reed didn't know how to get out....LoL!!

I don't know how you don't get that they are essentially the same person but different sides of the coin.

Originally posted by Mindset
And Doom self checks by not just killing outright killing Reed.

Doom has said pretty much the same thing to Reed.

Doom trapped Reed in his suit and Reed didn't know how to get out....LoL!!

I don't know how you don't get that they are essentially the same person but different sides of the coin.

Yeah, but Reed is just a step better than Doom...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Reed was in "good guy" mode in every single one of those; he was self checking...

In the scan (I know zopzop has it...I will get it from him) Reed says something to the effect of "I always could have owned you" and brain whammy's Doom into complete helplessness...

He had a dog colar around Dooms neck...LoL!!


Ask and ye shall receive LoM!
http://www.spidermancrawlspace.com/wordpress/2011/09/30/the-battle-is-over-but-the-war-ff9-review/

F Doom.

The comics have shown consistently that Reed and Doom are equals with Reed having a slight edge in raw intellect, but Doom edging him out due to being more creative and imaginative. Doom has beaten Reed or outright trumped him - numerous times - and Reed has wound up foiling Doom's plans as well.

Doom certainly does act with restraint and his own form of "CIS", as evidenced by every time he could have easily killed the F4 - or other superheroes/beings - and chooses not to because it goes against his self imposed code of conduct or plans he has in motion.

I mean, their entire rivalry is a series of one-up one another and being consistently referred to as equals.

Originally posted by zopzop
Ask and ye shall receive LoM!
http://www.spidermancrawlspace.com/wordpress/2011/09/30/the-battle-is-over-but-the-war-ff9-review/

F Doom.

Thanx zop!

Doom....PWNED by Reed Richards!

💃

The same Reed who got wasted fighting the Celestials whereas Doom survived them trying to eliminate him?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The same Reed who got wasted fighting the Celestials whereas Doom survived them trying to eliminate him?

Forget the Celestials...

Non-BS'ing Reed vs Doom; the above scan shows you Reeds superiority over Doom very clearly...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Forget the Celestials...

Non-BS'ing Reed vs Doom; the above scan shows you Reeds superiority over Doom very clearly...

So a non 616 Reed managed to score a win on Doom. Cool.

Doom meanwhile, habitually stalemates or has 616 Richards and his entire family at his mercy.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So a non 616 Reed managed to score a win on Doom. Cool.

Doom meanwhile, habitually stalemates or has 616 Richards and his entire family at his mercy.


EVERY Reed in EVERY alt reality OWNING EVERY alt version of Doom he came across.

When the gloves are off, Doom is outclassed by Reed.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So a non 616 Reed managed to score a win on Doom. Cool.

Doom meanwhile, habitually stalemates or has 616 Richards and his entire family at his mercy.

Reed is in" good guy" mode when Doom manages to edge him out...

Reed in "I aint taking s**t" mode completely owns Doom...

Originally posted by zopzop
EVERY Reed in EVERY alt reality OWNING EVERY alt version of Doom he came across.

When the gloves are off, Doom is outclassed by Reed.

👆

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The comics have shown consistently that Reed and Doom are equals with Reed having a slight edge in raw intellect, but Doom edging him out due to being more creative and imaginative. Doom has beaten Reed or outright trumped him - numerous times - and Reed has wound up foiling Doom's plans as well.

Doom certainly does act with restraint and his own form of "CIS", as evidenced by every time he could have easily killed the F4 - or other superheroes/beings - and chooses not to because it goes against his self imposed code of conduct or plans he has in motion.

I mean, their entire rivalry is a series of one-up one another and being consistently referred to as equals.

Don't bother with them, they obviously have girl brains and can't understand the stories.

Reed should have "taken off the kid gloves" when it came to curing Ben Grimm. baka

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Reed should have "taken off the kid gloves" when it came to curing Ben Grimm. baka

Why? Maybe subconsciously he doesn't want to. As it was shown in the "Alien Entity" storyline, it was God aka Reed that gifted the FF with their powers.

Why would he want to "cure" something he willed to happen?

Reed should have "taken off the kid gloves" when Doom raped him his entire family.